Crippling Developers & Roblox Communities - An Argument for the Reversal of the Blanket Discord Ban


#21

Our boy in blurple*

Edit: lol the cake follows me :scream:


#22

Roblox has slowly been crippling developer communication with their fanbase to the point where the best way for developers to get information out on their projects is through the description or through twitter, the former being difficult to work with due to the lack of ability to post pictures or do much besides use plaintext while working around the god-awful filters (which are another situation altogether) in place, and the latter being a moot point if we’re supporting user safety unless the developers force themselves to keep their true personality hidden or making a whole separate twitter account for personal affairs. Even if these are utilized, Discord is far superior for fanbase interaction in every scenario.

This has been the main problem BY far with Roblox in recent months, and even years. We need a better solution to protecting younger players than just banning everything because of a small number of incidents on a platform which make up less than 0.1% of the platform’s actual use. All of the developers responding to this thread with how their studios have been hurt by the ban only serve to show how much more harm than good this ban has done. #bringBackDiscord


#23

Completely agree with you, my game was on the front page for literally one day and I got 1000 people joining my discord server back when the linking was allowed, simply from one link in the game’s description. Now it’s less than 400 and there’s almost no activity at all, since no one new ever joins.


#24

I almost exclusively use Discord for socialization and business relating to the Roblox platform. The ban has made growing my games’ communities many times more difficult. I agree completely with this request.


#25

I was waiting for this (or more accurately, stopped expecting any changes).
I’d made a few drafts for similar requests, but in the end I gave up just because it seemed fruitless. Glad to see it being pushed again (:

I support this heaps. In my opinion, Roblox has been really lazy in coming up with solutions to issues on the platform – there were (and are) always other options. This applies to things like filtering and moderation too.

Pushing my discord-based community, rDesign, out into the wider Roblox community hasn’t been very successful. It got a bit of attention on Twitter, and on the DevForums here, but mainly it was just my friends joining.
We at rDesign could really use an influx of potential developers, too, not just members of the mature developer community. Our purpose is to make design be considered everywhere on Roblox – at the HQ, in our games, and anything else we may do. It’s also to help people.

Trying to accomplish these goals is simply much harder if we cannot advertise ourselves effectively on the very platform we are in the context of.


#26

There’s still plenty of violence and pornography on sites where links are allowed(ie. Twitter & YouTube), and there aren’t any rules against those.


#27

@evaera could you comment to this post with how many discord users are verified through RoVer to give us a bit of a scope at how many Roblox users also use Discord?


#28

I’ve argued so many times why discord was banned and lots of people reply with silly and utterly pointless arguments just because, I fear, they’re trying to “one up” themselves or make themselves look good in the light of the Roblox Staff team. However, the point remains that the ban was pointless and the sole reason behind the ban, in my opinion was due to the cause of the “beef” between the two companies. Coincidental that discord banned Roblox use of webhooks at the same sort of time that Roblox banned the use of discord.

Either way, I thoroughly agree with what has been said here and I think that if the ban was lifted against the use of discord and discord links on the Roblox site, the communities on Roblox would be able to grow in a much better manner. The matter of safety is a pointless argument that has many flaws of which I will happily debate with anyone that doesn’t agree.

Hopefully change is around the corner!


#29

Discord has also been incredibly important for two roleplaying groups I develop for. Outside of having a community, it has also been crucial for organization among staff members. In a way, both games rely on discord and wouldn’t be anywhere near as successful without it. With the discord ban, our growth is severely limited.

So I have full support for this.

(Could also make it so only members of the devforum are allowed to post discord links, or at least allow discord links in the bulletin board)


#30

Without discord I wouldn’t be here on the devforum. I would have never gotten that life-changing first commision. I wouldn’t be the robloxian I have become. I think we can be a bit more sympathetic to this cause. Discord is widespread to such a degree that preventing cooperation does more harm than good. Court-wise you would be safe. Safety-wise, you don’t have much to say to that. Criticism-wise the amount of wining parents will be squashed under the mountain of approval by developers and players who power your platform. Its time to change, that’s all I can conclude with.


#31

Honestly I don’t agree with that first paragraph. It implies a level pettiness that is just… really really bad. The staff of both companies would need to be unprofessional and pathetic to stoop so low.

Roblox has been getting negative PR due recently, as you should be able to see by doing a quick google search. Being protective and encouraging safety also makes sense in the current political climate.

The argument of safety is a real, important one, however Roblox’s execution of it is in my opinion what is flawed.

Discord needs to implement rate limits due to technical reasons. Discord banned Roblox since it seems 90% of ignorant developers on Roblox were abusing their system (Ok that’s an exaggeration, but you get the idea), no matter how many times they stated that they were not to be spammed.


#32

Love it!

Discord has been a great platform for communicating with Jailbreak players. People love talking to each other about updates. I see people making new friends, and forming communities through the server, and I love being able to jump in and talk to everyone. It’s a rapid medium of conversation that allows interaction not possible through platforms like Twitter, Roblox groups, etc.

Thanks for taking the time to write this @berezaa.


#34

I don’t like being the person to rain on everyone’s parade, but it’s important to remember why Roblox is imposing this Discord “ban” in the first place. It’s not Roblox’s intention to make it difficult for us to communicate with other developers and our playerbases.

This topic thoroughly explains why Discord is not allowed.

Again, I would totally love to be able to integrate Discord on Roblox, but it’s not fair to say that Roblox is crippling us for petty reasons. We need to understand that the safety concerns aren’t so easily bypassed nor ignorable as it seems.


#35

Unfortunately the 13+ argument doesn’t fly, because Twitter shares this policy. As pointed out in the OP and in subsequent replies, the only difference with Discord is that you have to sign up to be able to see harmful content, whereas on Twitter you do not. If anything, this paints Discord in a more favorable light than Twitter, especially when you consider that Discord users can enable a content filter, whereas guest Twitter users might see anything.


#36

Yeah, but see all they need to do is implement some basic segregation (e.g. <13s can’t view discord links, or get told that it may not be appropriate).

According to the text in the preview of that link, to me it seems like the platforms Roblox already links to are worse than Discord, as like they said, they can view without logging in.

Linking children to websites like that is not a good idea - there should at least be a barrier of creating an account. So for that reason imo Discord is better than Twitter and YouTube etc.

It seems hypocritical (does this exist as a word?) at this point.


#37

You’ve mentioned this before, but there is no “beef” between the two companies. Discord webhooks were shut down because developers were abusing them and not obeying rate limits, despite numerous warnings from Discord – they have nothing against Roblox the company. The Roblox ban on Discord came long after the webhooks were nuked, and are in no way related to or in retaliation against the webhook ban.

If you’re going to complain, be careful with which rumors you believe. Inventing problems based on what you hear from users who aren’t affiliated with either company is just going to pollute the thread with noise and ruin it for everyone.


#38

@sircfenner @EmeraldSlash Please read the text I quoted. It’s Roblox’s words, not mine, I’m only trying to clarify their reasoning.


#39

I’ve read it, it seems to me like you’re assuming we didn’t without reading our responses lol

Like I said, segregation imo is completely fine, and would get rid of the issue in one of the best ways possible.

I think I’m right. I don’t know for sure, but I don’t think I have really seen my arguments shut down properly by anyone else, working for Roblox or otherwise.


#40

Please help me understand. You can see nasty things on twitter, facebook and youtube without needing an account. You can also see nasty stuff in Discord, but you need an account to see it. Why is that the issue?


#41

Because I gave you evidence and you responded with the same 13+ argument.