Reminder Regarding Permissible Links

I see this as a huge problem, because sadly the only way I can communicate with people now is Via discord, and I do have strict rules on the ways I went about things. I build and develop for many groups in order to help out this community and yet the filters have become so strong I have to start saying “So you want me to build MUSIC10 buildings?” and it’s getting annoying, and now you’re saying I must go back to being limited to how I’m able to contact my developers. I find it also easier to use discord to be able to fully contact with somebody and be sure I’m not getting scammed which is one of the main reasons why i use the platform, because i’m not able to be searched for and harassed by any means. If there is problems with how I am able to communicate legitimately with people and not be limited with filters I hope there is an easy solution or I will have to proceed with some way on to fix an issue such as this. This is a very minor issue as more under 13 players are being exploited with audio bypasses and exploits than minor discord servers in which most groups end up thriving off of, as you crack down on the use of discord servers so will the use and activity of groups and so will the already hard task of such minor developers like me being able to find a good way to contact others on ROBLOX.

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To be honest I think it all comes down to the paranoia around the internet and language and sex and political correctness now :frowning:

The internet, by definition, is simply too open for things to be completely restricted.
Parents don’t seem to understand that, and, in my opinion, take some things a bit too seriously.

Plus some of them have no idea what they are doing, and don’t seem to use or care about implemented features.

Then again, it’s still a dangerous place.

What can we do? lol

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I’m not sure if this was mentioned before, but is posting your discord username on your profile permissible? Also, I hate to put all the twitter drama in this conversation, but Discord is kinda our rescue branch that’s keeping us from falling off that waterfall of having no contact with our game users, thanks to recent Twitter issues.

I’d like to point out that we have “Official” discord servers that prevent the usage of certain words, and these servers are managed by some of our best mods ( :wink: @bayat @evaera just to name two out of hundreds).

On these discord servers, we usually maintain a policy that commonly goes by “If you can’t do it on Roblox, you’re not allowed to do it here”.

To end, I’d like to point out that Twitter has garbage, I’ll admit that Discord can too. But we can’t sit down and just put boxes around our users that disadvantage us as developers. I’m not saying you haven’t thought of the consequences, or that you aren’t planning something amazing to make up for our social handle loss, but sometimes we have to take risks for the better. Discord is our social home base, I know there are if’s and but’s about giving Roblox users access to it, but I hope that the pros and cons are wheighed out expertly, and impacts to developers are prevented. I hope for the best…

Edit: Some people thought that I was referring to the Roblox community servers as official, I haven’t. I used official to refer to the discord servers run by the developers, eg. The Jailbreak discord, the Vehicle Simulator discord, Stylis Studios, Novaly Studios, HIdden Developers, etc.

Our games use discord, we use them for codes, and give players prizes in-game if they are in our discords. It’s basically giving us a forum for each game where announcements and prizes can be given. It combines Twitter and forums and puts it in this centralized and widely known application. What could be better?

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Thanks for the reply; that makes perfect sense.

My problem is there are multiple safe guards already in place, which could easily be found and utilised by the overprotective parent(s), such as disabling access to chats, etc, yet still get called out for not having anything to “protect their children from dangerous online pedophiles” (aka 12 year old kids using the internet).

I also think that this decision to filter and restrict discord could of been done in so many other ways, which would not of impacted any of our communities. I could make multiple feature requests regarding this, however I honestly doubt they’d be taken into consideration.

Edit: Re-worded some stuff.

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I mean, we’re the consumers. Roblox should be working for us. The developers are who power communities on this platform and are the ones who keep Roblox popular.

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I’m fine with roblox removing discord links, but blocking us from posting the discord links on another website that’s connected to our roblox account, like Twitter?

Thats extremely unfair, Roblox aren’t our parents and can’t enforce that rule on us. It makes the whole situation sound like a corporatocracy.

Unless they’ve revoked this in one of the past posts (haven’t checked all the replies) then I’m truly against this. Not posting it on Roblox, yeah I understand that, but don’t limit what we cant do on other websites.

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“…Since Discord’s Terms of Service only allows people aged 13 or older to use their platform and Roblox is a platform for all ages, we cannot risk unfairly exposing underage users to platforms such as Discord…”

So we’re allowing Facebook to break that rule and link to kids social media private lives but something like Discord isn’t allowed? :thinking:

"…Facebook can be viewed without logging in "

With little or no real value except for seeing a meme video that may have been posted publicly or one of those videos that start off fine then scream NSFW stuff at you. I’ve seen some people link Facebook pages but that got removed for some reason, so only Facebook profiles can be linked now.

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I honestly feel this needs to be reviewed as a ROBLOX policy.

I feel Discord is a valuable asset to developers, as it allows them to communicate and engage with their community. I do feel ROBLOX is lacking a feature which allows the kind of engagement which Discord allows, and if they’re going to block such valuable asset, I feel an alternative solution should be considered and provided by ROBLOX.

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Aw, i hoped that discord will be on roblox icon with link on profile like twitter or youtube…

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What about games that have Experimental Mode on? Only users 13+ can enter them.

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Implementing Discord’s new rich presence feature would’ve been a lot of work, I get that, but maybe reconsider banning it entirely just because of this.
More importantly: Don’t lie to us, don’t hide behind the Roblox account to lie to us.

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Gonna give this one a Big Thinky though, maybe I’ll figure out what kind of pressure led to this mistake. Could Twitch Desktop be competing with Discord? I mean, both are Electron powered mistakes of nature, both do servers, friends, chats, etc. Hmm… :thinking:

EDIT: Maybe something bad happened on Discord involving Roblox employees? :thinking:

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Perhaps the problem lies with COPPA. From what I can tell, it only protects children under 13 that have an account, since collecting data without an account (on whatever platform) isn’t the easiest thing ever.

ROBLOX has gone to the extreme with these rules because of COPPA and it’s heavily affecting developers. Groups are a thing, yes, but they’re so outdated. Discord is such a good platform to connect with your fans and other developers. (Not to mention some Discord servers have rules that have to be obeyed, otherwise people will be punished.)

Rules from my Discord

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The reason this is so lame is because no viable alternatives have been provided yet, and it looks like it’ll be a very long time until we get some from Roblox. The lack of even a bit of advice on where to move or how to handle this rule creates a lot of distance between Roblox and developers.

Question: If I link directly to a twitter account in a game description, and that twitter account has a discord invite link in its bio, does that outlaw my twitter profile?

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If you take a look at the previous responses in this thread (particularly those of staff), you’ll learn that your example is allowed.

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I did go through all the posts in this thread before asking my question, but the policy still doesn’t seem completely black-and-white. The initial post stated that using permissible links to circumvent the on-site link restrictions is not allowed.

As I’m sure we’re all aware, that’s exactly what I’m up to :kissing_heart:

To rephrase the question in a more indirect and lofty way that will be less incriminating for a staff member to answer:

Is it acceptable to put links in a twitter bio that are not permissible on Roblox while still linking to that twitter profile on Roblox?

The last thing I want is for all my stuff to get taken down for linking to this twitter profile.

Happy holiday to anyone who may be celebrating today :turkey:

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I can imagine there are gradations in this that need to be judged on a case-by-case. For example, posting a NSFW link/image in your bio or pinned tweet would make it an actual (and pretty bad) violation of the rule, and people should actually be moderated for posting links to such profiles/tweets.

For discord links specifically, it has been specified in this thread that, at this moment in time, it is fine to stick these in a (pinned) tweet or your bio, as long as you do not link to the (pinned) tweets on Roblox directly and you don’t accompany your links on Roblox with text such as “Find the discord code on my twitter: <…>”, “Discord: <twitter link>”, etc. There should be no reference to Discord in the place where you link your twitter, and if you’re linking to a tweet then that specific tweet should not have references to Discord.

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What about those who get around it by posting a tweet with their discord link, then linking the tweet?

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Guys what you could do is put all of your links and stuff on a twitch dashboard and just send your people to the twitch link.

edit: as long as the offsite links are not directly what I am linking to on Roblox.

Check out the few responses above yours and Lilly_S’s responses for clarification. You may not link to a tweet containing a discord link directly, that would be seen as circumventing the rule.

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So we shouldn’t relate Roblox with Discord on Roblox? That’s it? That’s how we bypass this rule?

Diverting the attentions to something else and supplying the Discord link as an extra outside of Roblox is actually fine?

We all want to use Discord.

  • All of the Roblox clans use it.
  • All of Roblox development studios use it.
  • Nearly every single active community on Roblox has a Discord server.
  • There are Discord servers for communities created in games themselves like Phantom Forces.

And we will, always find a way to use it anyways. These regulations and rules aren’t actually stopping anything, only furthermore annoying us to be creative about how to relay the Discord Server ID to people.

I don’t think Roblox is actually solving any problems with this if they truly want to protect people below the age of 13. I do not know the regulations legal wise or if doing this they get rid of laws binding them if something “bad” happened to a kid.

What you could do is, you could create a bot for Discord servers that uses the same filtering system you currently use for your game and make that mandatory. Cross check every Discord ID on Roblox site via a program that checks with which servers bot is on, and if bot isn’t registered in one of those servers, get rid of that link.

But I don’t think you will ever do this, so whatever. Apparently, it’s time for the developers and community leaders to get creative.

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