Changes to Thumbnail/Icon System

Slightly less badly written greasemonkey userscript that doesn’t constantly poll the page but instead uses mutationobservers via arrive.js. Click raw then install~

Pls don’t sue but I didn’t like the default icon you used. So I changed it three times 1,2,3 decided on the last one. (old icon)

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But that’s not ROBLOX’s logo, is it now?

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I can only say that this update really makes current matters worse. Really, get together, ROBLOX - or we’ll end up losing popularity before long.

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(My personal preference) I hate seeing the new logo so if I can have the old then I will. Besides another script already strips away every mention/seeing of the new logo and replaces it with the old.

Ah, okay - I was merely a bit confused as to why you used the old logo.

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I feel like this wouldn’t be a problem if you guys had a little more faith in your users instead of punishing everyone for the misconducts of a small bunch that slip through moderation. I make this argument under the assumption that this is a way to combat inappropriate content.

That’s not our fault.

This is a problem that stems from the ineffective design of our webpages- primarily the front page for games and individual game pages. For example: You guys got rid of the comment section, reasonably so, but didn’t offer a replacement to something that could have been crucial for promoting higher quality games and not the clickbait junk.

People have suggested a feature similar to Steam’s review system since 2015 (keyword ‘Steam Review’ in search)

To my knowledge, we have heard nothing from the web team addressing this issue. Correct me if I’m wrong.

I think we have a right to be angry because you guys expect us to be civilized people who won’t abuse the creative freedoms this site has to offer, but you don’t provide us effective tools that empower us to help you get rid of the junk that other users maliciously publish. All we get is a report button who for god knows if it actually works. If people don’t think it works, then they aren’t going to use it. Very ineffective. It’s the same mentality with people who don’t vote, because they don’t think that their single vote is going to make a difference. I’m sure we are well aware of how problematic that is on its own.

Y’all just need to put a little more faith in your users. I’m sure most of us here are willing, we just need better tools to inform you that someone is publishing content unsuitable for ROBLOX. Something like a review system is going to help us help you promote higher quality games (assuming front page has a sorting for it) and push trashy, inappropriate games to the back. Auto generated thumbnails/icons is not something we needed. Why are we getting things we don’t need when we aren’t hearing about things we actually need?

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Here is a new logo edit just for you. :123:

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The mystery of the report button…

Does it work?
Has it ever worked?
Is its all a conspiracy?

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Wouldn’t be surprised if there are people that don’t bother reporting inappropriate content because people get zero feedback on their filed reports and they think it doesn’t work.

I know I feel like it doesn’t do anything sometimes contrary to knowing it actually does work.

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Well I must say this update is pretty random, and I’m not quite sure what the main point of this update actually is (especially due to their impact on classic/old games that don’t get updated, making them look falsely-advertised).

But as for the possible reason of moderation, I agree with others that it’s like punishing all roblox users for the fault of a few. Additionally, this update can even make users be less convinced/attracted to visit games (particularly if the creator isn’t active anymore and their place thumbnail is looking just like almost any other non-updated game).

Just a proposal of mine (not sure if others have proposed this but I’ve seen something similar): this update should be for new places, rather than the ones that were created before this update (or at least some time period before the update, for example - places created ~1 month before it).

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I see the point of this butI think they should just be solid colours because they could have no link to the type of game.

The problem isn’t necessarily the place thumbnail itself, it’s the fact that you can link to an unmoderated image asset (in this case, the place thumbnail) and have it render in-game as if it were approved.

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Considering this feature appears to be here to stay, I really would like to mention a compromise that would probably get us all to stop having issues with this update while actually accomplishing the task at hand.

  1. Keep all places without preset thumbnails have these default thumbnails. I’d personally prefer having more neutral thumbnails with solid backgrounds, but that’s besides the point.
  2. Allow anyone on the RBXDev beta to preview what the previous thumbnail was, and approve it if there’s nothing wrong or inappropriate with it.
  3. Remove all abusers of this feature from RBXDev.

From a technicality perspective, it might require some work, but I think it’s work that would be well worth the prevention of practical removal of history from many of the old Roblox places.

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Now ROBLOX+ Version Thumbnails are useless.

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looks like I’ll be removing that from my extension

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My two big concerns with this update:

  • Searching games tells you nothing because all of the icons are default.

  • Video thumbnails still cost R$500 in comparison to image thumbnails, which cost R$10. You can upload 50 image thumbnails for the price of one video thumbnail. Do video thumbnails seriously take that much longer to moderate? They’re only 30 seconds at maximum. Surely if the issue with video thumbnails causing them to cost 50x as much as image thumbnails was due to flooding, Roblox wouldn’t have decided on R$10 for image thumbnails because checking 50 images would surely take more time than checking a 30 second video.

It also seems a bit strange to me that the website is being so brutally punished for what seems to be an issue with moderation.

(And yes, several inappropriate images, audio, etc. have made their way onto the website. I report them as soon as I see them.)

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I think this hit the nail on the head. As iterated previously, all this update did was mask inappropriate content. We should not be trying to sweep inappropriate content under the rug. We should deal with the real issue.

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Yes, the root of the problem was having thumbnails that weren’t moderated properly, like I said. Now instead of moderating them we got a bunch of generic images plastered over the thumbnails of older games.

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Moderating all of them would be chaotic. There are well over 100 million places on Roblox. They needed to make a fast temporary action so that they could control it with the tools they have while they work on setting up automation that can be tackled reasonably.

If they implement automation in the manner I suggested earlier, it should be really easy for the moderation team to tackle a lot of them.

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I hope so at least.

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