Keep the lounge?

Lounge decreases overall thread quality in all other boards because it’s easier to be off topic and less serious.

But it’s not like anyone here seems interested about talking with me about game design as an artistic medium because all my threads about the topic in Developer Discussion die.

I came to this forum expecting something different than Ironnoobs Robles section.

Nick would make a great politician - I’m pretty sure that this tactic has been used in government votes before.

Anyways, in my opinion, the Lounge’s rules are too loose. This is the Roblox Developer forum. When I log in and check the Recent Topics sort, I don’t expect to see political debates and spam threads - I expect to see Roblox developer content. I want to hear about bugs and glitches that need to be patched, new features in the works and release dates for such features. I wish to see valid discussion on how to successfully develop and market a game on Roblox, organization and optimization tips, and I really love seeing all of the cool projects you guys have found or created.

[quote] Lounge decreases overall thread quality in all other boards because it’s easier to be off topic and less serious.

But it’s not like anyone here seems interested about talking with me about game design as an artistic medium because all my threads about the topic in Developer Discussion die.

I came to this forum expecting something different than Ironnoobs Robles section. [/quote]

I’d be willing to talk about it but I’ve not seen any threads on the topic.

[quote] Lounge decreases overall thread quality in all other boards because it’s easier to be off topic and less serious.

But it’s not like anyone here seems interested about talking with me about game design as an artistic medium because all my threads about the topic in Developer Discussion die.

I came to this forum expecting something different than Ironnoobs Robles section. [/quote]

I think that most of the subforums are simply ambiguous in their nomenclature and therefore don’t get the focused activity that we would like because we don’t know what to expect or have skewed expectations of what they contain.

I’d love to chat up your threads about game design as an artistic medium if I knew where to find those threads. This is no fault of your own, but rather that I expect the Development Discussion subforum to be more of a “This is what I’m doing suggest ideas or help with this problem” subforum. I find it unclear what each subforum is exactly for, so I usually browse through them all at random, seeing if any threads there contain something I want to talk about.

Does this make sense/“click” with anyone else?

EDIT: I’d actually expect to see threads like that either in the Lounge or Look at this Cool Creation. :X

I misread the poll.

The title of the thread says “Getting Rid of the Lounge” while the title of the poll says “Keep the lounge?”.

Yea I had to stop and think before I actually voted that thread title and the vote title really are got meh :uhhh:

[quote] Lounge decreases overall thread quality in all other boards because it’s easier to be off topic and less serious.

But it’s not like anyone here seems interested about talking with me about game design as an artistic medium because all my threads about the topic in Developer Discussion die.

I came to this forum expecting something different than Ironnoobs Robles section. [/quote]

I’d be willing to talk about it but I’ve not seen any threads on the topic.[/quote]

I’ve lately given up making them, but I’ve had a good three or four with one or two responses.
Developer Discussion is very vague though. Is that where we discuss Roblox-meta development or development in a more broad sense?

I’d feel like it’d go into the Lounge, but it’d feel extremely out of place there considering the threads that would appear above and below it.

Can someone create a new thread with a new, properly titled Poll?

That would just fragment even more discussion.

The lets just agree that yes = no and no = yes

but I actually took my time to read the poll before posting

Poll title is fixed now btw.

All I’m hearing is: “Boo hoo! I see 1-3 lounge topics under recent discussion every time I look at it! Even though it’s only a couple, it’s the end of the world and we should delete the lounge and hope overflow doesn’t go into development discussion! I don’t want to use the modification that removes lounge posts from recent discussion mentioned earlier in the thread because I think it’s a KL!”

[quote] Poll title is fixed now btw.

All I’m hearing is: “Boo hoo! I see 1-3 lounge topics under recent discussion every time I look at it! Even though it’s only a couple, it’s the end of the world and we should delete the lounge and hope overflow doesn’t go into development discussion! I don’t want to use the modification that removes lounge posts from recent discussion mentioned earlier in the thread because I think it’s a KL!” [/quote]

Then you’re obviously not listening to the same thread that I am. The general sentiment is the fact that there’s not enough direction given to forums such as the lounge, which is leading to threads which don’t belong on a developer forum. I’d also like to point out that whilst the lounge may only have a few posts in recent topics, it is the second largest sub-forum on this forum and that really shouldn’t be the case due to the forum being developer orientated, not an extension of ROBLOX’s Off Topic sub-forum.

People also shouldn’t be forced to block out a sub-forum just because the sub-forum was not correctly presented in the first place, along with all the others.

[quote] Poll title is fixed now btw.

All I’m hearing is: “Boo hoo! I see 1-3 lounge topics under recent discussion every time I look at it! Even though it’s only a couple, it’s the end of the world and we should delete the lounge and hope overflow doesn’t go into development discussion! I don’t want to use the modification that removes lounge posts from recent discussion mentioned earlier in the thread because I think it’s a KL!” [/quote]

Then you’re obviously not listening to the same thread that I am. The general sentiment is the fact that there’s not enough direction given to forums such as the lounge. The lounge is the second largest sub-forum on this forum, and that really shouldn’t be the case due to the forum being developer orientated, not an extension of ROBLOX’s Off Topic sub-forum.[/quote]

I don’t know what you’re seeing, but these are certainly developer orientated:
this
this
this
this
this
this

^Those are all on the first page^

Just because they’re in the lounge doesn’t mean that they’re off topic – most of OPs just didn’t bother to put the thread in the right forum. I see about 3 on the first page that truly belong in OT. You have a plugin available to you on the first page of this thread that removes lounge threads from Recent Discussion.

He didn’t really say that – I made it up, but he prob would have said it. The part about the web designers is true though.

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In any forum, off topic shouldn’t be anywhere near the top posted in sub-forum, ever. If it is, it signals a failure in the core principles of the forum, the variety of sub-forums, or post quality. Again, the only reason we’re having issues with threads being in the incorrect sub-forums, or being complete twoddle, is due to the fact that each sub-forum’s purpose hasn’t been clearly described, nor have the standards of each been presented in a ‘physical’ manner. The best we’ve got is “We don’t want to impose rules here”, which does nothing for post quality.

I’d also like to congratulate you on pointing out that only 30% of posts on the front page are developer orientated, by your standards. That is not, in my opinion, acceptable on a developer forum.


I would also like to thank you for proving my point on either my first or second reply. Those who have an issue with these forums, and are attempting to mediate a solution, are ignored by the administration team who look over this forum in favour of people like yourself, who wish to continue posting drivel on a forum which wasn’t designed for that purpose.

Hiding the sub-forum does not fix the issue at hand. The issue can be easily remedied in five seconds if user suggestions were noted, such as clearer rules for ALL of the sub-forums. You do not require any form of web development competence to make a thread or change the description of sub-forums through the admin panel.

Edit:
I would appreciate it if you didn’t try to officially quote a member of the ROBLOX Corporation, and then add unneeded twoddle to it. If Khano wishes to interject with his own thoughts, instead of those doctored by you, he is more than welcome to… unless of course you have his permission to make statements on his behalf?

I’m sorry – you can leave if you don’t like how the admins run RbxDev – their house – not yours. The lounge does not affect the rest of RbxDev in any way – if you’re going to be butthurt about having to use a plugin, already provided for you, to remove lounge posts from getting in front of your face, don’t bitch about it here.

Who do you think you are? Stop being so condescending and obnoxious with your replies - saying that the other person is butthurt and quoting a forged admin statement to tell us to “quit our bitching” isn’t the proper way to debate.

I am well aware that this forum is owned by the ROBLOX Corporation, and I do not need reminding. However, I would like to remind you that user suggestions are vital to it. I could understand where you were coming from if users were rallying for the admins to quit, but we’re not. We are asking for clearer guidelines for all sub-forums, to make it clearer as to what’s expected for each, and instead of making a constructive point about it, you call everyone whining bitches for not using a plugin which shouldn’t be necessary in the first place. Well done, and thank you for proving my point.

Note: I refuse to respond to you any further unless you can make an argument which doesn’t rely on calling us all whining bitches, just because we’ve made a valid suggestion which would be beneficial. I also refuse to let this thread turn into a flame war, for Khano to then lock it.

That is just god damn uncalled for. Respect other people’s opinions.

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There is a bit of text under that quote that confirms that it wasn’t really Khanovich – does a colored box with italicized text instantly make something “official” and “forged”, completely overriding the statement that confirms that it isn’t real?

[quote=“DataStore”] unless you can make an argument which doesn’t rely on calling us all whining bitches [/quote] I already have brought up a legitimate point – it was in that quote. ROBLOX doesn’t have a real site dev team for RbxDev, so they won’t be doing this any time soon. You’re a developer, so you should know the answer to this. Which would you prefer to see when you get a site team up and running finally?

100s of pages of feature requests that users could have easily solved by using a plugin

or

relevant suggestions that you didn’t have to find after filtering through the 100s of pages mentioned earlier?

This is as futile as asking for player points to be removed.