I would love it if 18+ didn’t need to have a filter. I don’t think it would really help all too much with the problem of not being able to talk to fans, but at least it will help roblox start to appeal to an older crowd.
<13 → 18+, 18+ → <13, 18+ → 13+ obviously get filtered as usual. 13+ → 18+ and 18+ → 18+ need have no filter. The filter should check if the two players fall into one of those categories and return the original string.
As for a definition of “18+” which is probably sensitive even with roblox having no responsibility protecting children who lie about their age, a verified billing email still might not be enough.
IIRC when I did ToS review for one of my college courses, Twitter basically said “if someone lies about their age to sign up for our site it’s their own fault”, so potentially we would’t need to worry about fake ages. Then again, Twitter has a legal team that could put any individual in the mud to enforce that.
Filtering is necessary for 13+→18+ to prevent kids from revealing personal information.
I agree with you about 18+ → 18+.
The personal information concern is for <13 and not 13+, isn’t it?
So then why do they have a different filter?
COPPA is what regulates PII for children. It doesn’t apply to 13+, as Digital_Boy mentioned.
I think an 18+ filter would be absolutely amazing.
Since ROBLOX is USA based, it would likely follow the US rating of 18+ or 21+, whichever would be considered appropriate in legal eyes (21 is the legal age of an adult in some states.). However legal age may not have anything to do with what age can see what content. Typically ESRB rates games in North America with Teen, for 13+, and Mature, for 17+ (not 18).
I’m 19, and I want to play ROBLOX for years to come, but it’s getting a hell of a lot harder to communicate with friends who I know very well. We’ve had to communicate over alternative clients to avoid being filtered.
I think people over 18 are, obviously capable of controlling what they want to see. If you are old enough to understand what’s being said then I think you should be able to see it. Obviously I shouldn’t be able to tell someone to fuck off, but I should be able to communicate my own way given my age and experience, and anyone else of equal 18+ should be able to see that, and interpret it without reading a billion hashtags.
If kids lie about their age that’s their own fault, or their parents fault for not enforcing it. ROBLOX does not need to worry about kids who lie because they’re not responsible, however a 18+/17+ feature should not be mentioned on the home page when signing up, to prevent lying kiddos.
In my experience, as being over 18 myself I’ll use my real birth date on any website, so I don’t have to worry about accidentally coming across a filter, however when I was younger I definitely lied about my age to get away from any filtering issues, I’m not saying I should have, but I felt well within my right to do so; because my interests differed from the company interest, and that’s okay.
If a child decides to do this to themselves, it should be safely assumed that they’re doing it knowing they are bypassing a filter, because they feel responsible enough to see anything said, and nobody but themselves can be held accountable.
Hi! I know this topic is just about 10 days away from its 1st anniversary (355 days ago) compared to the last post and as all the important points have been discussed here, I just thought of reviving it, rather than creating the same topic again.
Reason being: I think this a great idea which I think shouldn’t be forsaken, but considered instead.
I am going to take a wild guess here and consider it a risk Roblox did not consider worth taking, but if it is simply forgotten then I would support this quite a bit.