my exact thinking, theres A LOT of games based around wars that are fairly recent spanning from late / mid last century to even this century yet i dont see anything being said about those
Youâre implying that I donât find those tasteless too? I do, I said that in my first sentence. I donât think games should be made about tragedies in the Middle East or the Vietnam invasion, because the victims still remain. They are recent, the trauma caused by them is recent.
I feel like my words have been intentionally interpreted maliciously? Youâve manipulated my words and argument into something completely different.
what were you thinking while making this, just wondering
i find war interesting, ukraine and russia isnt the only ones ive done, i just like making war games tbh + they raise awareness and can show how bad war can be
arenât you that guy who invented the green screen?
hey! yeah! thanks! fixed! no problem.
I wouldnât say maliciously, just interpretated differently, I believe people should be able to make what they want and if you donât like it donât play it, but I do see peoples reasonings with this and like I said before I decided to discontinue it, also like I said before, donât like it? donât play it
I personally think the freedom to âcreate anythingâ shouldnât come at the expense of those who actually suffered and probably wouldnât like to see their trauma and suffering made into a shooter video game, but to each their own I suppose.
It really isnât as simple as âdonât like it donât play itâ. Sometimes it just doesnât belong and shouldnât be made in the first place.
That kind of ends my thoughts on this. Best regards In whatever you make after this.
I understand and see where your coming from, but the games donât include ârealâ tragedies (sorry if I worded this wrong but read the rest to understand) such as specific bombings or specific cities that have been attacked or whatever, its just simply both countries at war, fictional cities, fictional places, fictional characters and fictional army, simply just based on both of the countries. I can see that it still might be a sensitive subject but I wouldnât say its at the âexpenseâ of those who suffered during the war. but I enjoyed kind of âdebatingâ this and thank you for listening
btw besides the context of the game I do like the building style of it and I think the environment is pretty. good work!
all I did was quote something you said and extrapolated from it for sake of explaining the viewpoint as rather bad from the examples given. Personally, this just seems like an issue with you and a few other forum members in particular, the idea of a game set/based on a current conflict is NOT a foreign idea, with games like six days in fallujah, squad, and the aforementioned RoN taking locations and entire concepts from real life wars and tragedies, and pulling it off tastefully, even on roblox there are multiple âmiddle easternâ and âeuropeanâ war games that emulate the weaponry and situations of that time, I think the idea of a game based on the ukraine-russia war is not inherently bad on its own, like how people here are suggesting, but can be exploited as such depending on how the game is pulled off, from what @YourGuyCash is posting, it seems he just wants to make a modern warfare game set in this particular war, which wouldnât be of foul intent or harm in any way.
if we spent all our time scooting around sensitive content, weâd never get anywhere, as @YourGuyCash clarified later, the entire concept of the idea just involved namedropping the countries, without bringing up any battles, torment, or the like, itâd be basically the same as running a custom ARMA 3 server with russia v ukraine factions, so it wouldnt even breach your fears of âturning trauma into a shooter gameâ because the most relation to the war itself would be the patches on the soldiers uniform.
Overall with the idea of the game, I think it would be wise to remove the mentions of the countries by name, but only because roblox moderation is so stingy around this type of content, not because its inherently bad in any way.
this sums it up very well, props to you for this, ill consider continuing the game with just removing the flags and mentions of any country names, i totally agree with you
These things happened many many years ago, thereâs nothing wrong with creating content on war in a respectful manner but doing it on CURRENT events is kinda of weird lol is not that hard to understand people are still being affected by this and itâs very insensitive to those people RIGHT NOW. I would be pretty upset if I was going through some traumatic experiences and saw some poopy Roblox experience covering the war that I am CURRENTLY living through.
vietnamese war veterans arenât affected no more? neither cold war veterans? or how about middle eastern veterans? and plus if you took 5 minutes of your day to read the replies it doesnât recreate any real cities, scenarios or events, just the country names like factions, so that isnât necessarily currently happening to anyone, its just a modern war game set in these particular countries
These veterans barely know what the internet is lol, it still doesnât take away from the fact that people are going through this RIGHT NOW. It doesnât need to recreate the conflict if you are literally using the country flags xd
well with that logic i doubt victims of the ukraine-russian war are on roblox either?
??? Many people have left the country to escape the wars lol not everyone is INSIDE of ukraine and you donât have to be inside of the country to be affected by the war? Peoples relatives, families are dying, right NOW. These veterans are all above 60+ with problems far worse than seeing a Roblox or game based on these events, which they will most likely never see in the first place. Regardless, I wouldnât use the flags of the actual countries and its pretty weird to even think about doing this xd end of the discussion
âend of discussionâ lol says the one that brought it back up as we finished the convo
you can set it in future or 90s, slightly or fully change flags, set the conflict in slavic region countries, add custom lore, add your own depressing buildings here (to add khrushevkas gray feeling) like rainworld buildings
you can compare block of flats (krushevkas) to Humant colony lol which makes street fights more suppressing
For developer
A little bit of history: The POST SOVIET countries has a feeling of ancient civillization which on its way to progress died/collapsed and got erased by some unexpected events and now all these buildings, people, technology is just remnants of something greater, thats what made 90s depressing and also started a age of tons of conflicts and it still continues on which getting support by the worst human sins
Gl with game, i hope you wont attract there toxic players, cause all this stuff is such rabbit hole
i appreciate the actual advice lol, thank you