Hiding the āsurfaceā and āsurface Inputsā tab if all of it is smooth isnāt a good idea to me.
I occasionally use these properties to determine a lookvector of a part, with it hidden Iāll need to convert all the parts to have some sort of different type of surface where it wouldnāt even be needed just to see where the lookvector of that specific part is.
This is highly annoying and consumes a lot of time just to get that up.
I would prefer it if these properties remained to be shown despite all the surfaces being smooth, there are more uses to these properties other than just surface adjustments.
needing to write a plugin for this isnāt something I got time for now and I do not want to rely on 3rd party plugins which could be dodgy considering the toolbox in itās current state, which should be understandable.
Well. Iād say it will be sad for some of us, good for others, some wonāt care about it, but hey, as long as thereās an alternative way to get what we want i think itās all fine.
Like many others have said here, I used the Surface section in Properties to tell which way a part was facing so I could make functional cameras, interactive objects, etc. I think this was an oversight.
All the other ways to tell which way a partās surfaces are facing are far more clunky than what we had before (I understand it wasnāt the intended use).
You make a plugin to do it. Showing part orientation was obviously not the purpose of this feature in the first place, and doing this yourself is relatively trivial.
Hereās a plugin I wrote quickly to fill in the gap now that part surface types are finally on their way out.
I was annoyed at first that they were removing ability to easily to see part surfaces so I decided to try and make my own plugin. It currently features the ability to select faces and directional vectors for multiple parts simultaneously, and doesnāt require you to have them currently selected to show the faces and vectors (using locked selection).
I am disappointed in the surfaces tab being removed from the properties window. Whilst I can understand the removal of old surfaces such as hinges or motors, it is now annoying to set surfaces to Smooth or Studs by having to use the tool in the models tab. As well as this, itās harder to see a specific face / direction of a part - although this isnāt exactly an elegant solution, it shouldāve been considered when removing the tab and added as its own feature beforehand. Plus, developers following tutorial videos become confused when trying to find the tab in properties.
To add onto your point, I think I would be really helpful if there was a new āShow directionā option in Studio that displays the front, left, right, back, top and bottom sides of your model, part, mesh or whatever. This would remove the need for surface for this.
Great, now I canāt tell what direction a part is facing. Thanks, devs, got rid of something that people used for reasons you didnāt expect, and now we have a worse product as a result. Classic roblox.
I literally only used hinges as a way to find the front of a part (hint hint: important when building if you want to do cframe related things later on.) and thatās plfltlfltpt dead now. Judging by some replies Iām seeing, Iām not the only one. Seems out of touch to not add in a solution before removing something. But thatās just ROBLOXās typical development method I guess.
Just use a plugin to view part faces, or file a feature request to make part orientation more clear. Physics constraints arenāt meant for viewing orientation.
Roblox didnāt provide a simple way of finding the faces of parts by easy visualization, so developers, naturally looking for shortcuts used hinges to visually guide them and very easily turn them off. Weāve done this for years. This is the actual user experience.
They want to provide a āsingular Studio building standardā
Yet,
So what is it?
Do developers constantly have to develop new plugins to make their own studio better, while newer developers lose ease of access as Roblox narrows down to a āsingular studio building standardā
This is not a good alternative this takes way too many clicks for when I just need to quickly check which way is front. Roblox should just have a checkbox somewhere we can click to display the front face.
To make this work I need to click on the part, click the insert object button, search for the adornment, insert the adornment, set an adornee, change the face, and then depending on the size of the part I have to change the SizeRelativeOffset property or else I wont be able to even see the arrow.
With the old system all i had to do was click on the part, scroll to the surfaces section and click the face i wanted, boom. done.
It is useless and problematic to remove a function that studio beginners learn to use in their first steps, also this helps and complicates life much less for those builders who do not know scripting, this is also in all official roblox tutorials. About surfaces,(Its a old, but very useful feature)So, why remove them? You want to make life difficult for builders like me who donāt know or understand almost anything about scripting? Because it seems like you want to do itā¦ @kleptonaut Im wating for your answer
Sure its not, but it was definitely the easiest way to do so. If there was another easier and more efficient way to view each surface of the part, no one would be here complaining since we would be using that method. Yet there isnāt. So even if it wasnāt meant for viewing orientation, it was still the best way to do so, and removing that feature as you can see has been a setback for many.
How do I remove all legacy surfaces on my model? Iām trying to convert a Power Wheels thingy I made a few years ago to a new chassis using Constraints. But I have to get rid of all the legacy surfaces. How do I do this quick?
I gotta be honest, I think this change was long overdue. Motors/Hinge SurfaceTypes were nice but now HingeConstraints seems simpler.
Glad I finally switched over.
I donāt like how the Surface section of part properties have been hidden. I used this section a lot to check which side of a part I was looking at, and it was very helpful for me in all kinds of situations when I needed to know which face was the front etc. Iād love to see the surface properties unhidden.
