Do you know of any work arounds or unique uses of objects to achieve an effect similar to this?
There is no workaround unfortunately, your best bet is to just keep on tiling the parts.
Roblox staff are just incredibly lazy at this point how long have surfaceappearances been in studio beta and haven’t had a single update or improvement
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@Bobytoeburrito unfortunately none at this time. One thing I know I’ll likely be doing once the new materials update comes out is create maps and assets with a mix of my own asset textures and new material textures. Small, modular assets are likely going to be a solution.
@Slappy_326 you shouldn’t call the Studio team staff lazy. They work really hard and these problems are not simple. Good things take time. At least they’ve given us beta access to try it out first!
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Dude come on normal maps are 7th gen technology and we got to try it for the first time in roblox in 2019, 2 years later it’s still not fully available and we can’t even tile the textures.
As much as I don’t like this fact I can’t help but consider the staff lazy (or possibly underpaid, I don’t know lol) because time and time again they’ve proven themselves to be incompetent.
I won't get into the full history of it but here are a few examples
- no Z index layering on decals/textures (the most basic feature you could think of for decals/textures)
- no decal-projections (incredibly basic/essential feature)
- the first time we get to try non-skybox reflections is indoor env maps, and look what tragedy that was/is
- clouds quality/delay (still not released)
- FIB took 5 years. So basically 5 years to bring roblox to ps3/x360 standards (except still no reflections)
- Model automatic meshes, another tragedy that no one even brings up anymore
- Only automatic LOD optimization for meshes/unions that we cant control that looks pathetic honestly
- Can’t even change terrain textures
And besides that I happen to know that some of the staff complain (in private) when users don’t like a new feature (such as the first rollout of the clouds) and call us “ungrateful”… That’s kind of childish behavior
and so on, so yeah, they’re lazy. (or underpaid)
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They’re actually already live in all games. Just turn it on in Studio and you would be able to use it.
The advanced ones aren’t, which include the entire purpose of surfaceappearances
Which advanced ones? All I know is the normal SurfaceAppearance Instance.
Here’s a snip from the Beta Features section
Without it checked I can add surface appearance instances but I can’t see or edit any properties of it, only parent and name
I’m actually kind of confused now, since I put in the roblox forest pack (from toolbox) into studio and all the surfaceappearances do actually have normal maps and etc even with the beta check box unchecked
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This is correct and it is intentional behaviour.
While I do agree the staff take forever to get things done, and we are now 2 generations behind, roblox has to also take into account the online part literally no part of a game is stored on a device. You also have to remember when roblox first started it was roughly 3 generations behind.
While I dislike robloxes staff (mainly moderation) I don’t think they are lazy or incompetent (other than moderation) the technical teams get stuff done slowly but they have alot more technical problems than unreal for example. Not to mention it’s a 100% in house engine that has to work cross Gen and on many platforms while ALSO being online.
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Its actually really stupid to reallase a project in half, when they add PBR i think it become nesesary to add a tiling feature because you are going to need it when you are making a realistic project.
Somethimes i dont understand how roblox is organized
There is a workaround for tiling pbr textures. If you add a ‘humanoid’ to the mesh, the pbr texture will tile vs stretch. You can even adjust the texture scale by changing materials. I don’t know why it works, but it works (for now).
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When was the last time you tested this? I just tried it with a SurfaceAppearance and Humanoid both parented to the same MeshPart. I did not see any differences when scaling the MeshPart. Could you explain what I may be doing wrong?
A few weeks ago, I’ll try it again later and let you know if it still works for me.
Wait there is another step, you have to group them in a model and put the humanoid as a sibling.
Whew you scared me there for a minute, i thought they had ‘fixed’ it. It will be a bad day when they do though and break all the builds ppl made using this tweak.
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That works, thanks! Do you happen to know of any way to change the size of a SurfaceAppearance similar to a texture’s StudsPerTile? Apparently the original size of some of the SurfaceAppearances are really small, and are rendered unusable. Also, I accidentally found out that you can use this trick on all SurfaceAppearances by parenting a single humanoid to workspace. Makes it easy to view how multiple SurfaceAppearances will turn out!
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Only by changing the material, you get a couple of different scales that way.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it stopped working one day, such a weird work around.
Looks like it will no longer be an issue! Hurrah!
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Yeah I saw that, very cool. And I just made some custom glacier ice with the oddball method. Well, anyway the new method isn’t out for games yet. Lets hope they release it soon for live games.
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I would love to see your results!