Basically, your resource is misleading, the features mentioned do not own up to their name.
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Describe how my comparison is wrong when I simply pointed out that the Ban API is laughable to bypass and it is known in the exploiting community to be this way.
You’re failing to disclose information to customers. If I were a customer reading this, I would take this as a laugh to my face quite honestly; I would think, “Oh, I’m buying a great anticheat” without knowing that part of the things I’m buying are empty words without value and that things that are described here I could be doing myself, alone.
It’s like the alleged special detections. Are you going to detect when they hook the RBX::ScriptContextFacets::WaitingHybridScriptsJob vft with offset at 0x6? Surely you can do it from Luau right…?
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oh look the monthly dose of devforum slop
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Hypothetically speaking, If you are told throughout your life that if you do this ‘action’ then you’d get arrested without mentioning that your ‘kids’ would get arrested along with you. Then, If a cop were to arrest you, and if your kids would also get arrested then you were misled because they didn’t mention that part to you. They hid that part from you. What I’ve done is simply mention that Alts also get detected. It is a must to clarify.
Regarding RBX::ScriptContextFacets::WaitingHybridScriptsJob, this seems to just be making fun of this and insulting the project. We both the answer is no to this, we both know that all other anti-cheats are already bypassed, and most of them don’t even work for things such as UI exploit detection with certain executors.
Let’s look at this way, at least ours do detect anything related to UI exploits even some external UIs that dont even use CoreUI and StarterUI in ‘some cases’.
Also, this is a paid anti-cheat. I can’t give you details of how everything works behind the scenes. Just because you have a nuke to show to the world, doesn’t mean they have to know how to create it themselves.
An anti-cheat is only more powerful, the less knowledge, and the less people know about it. About its techniques.
I’d certainly believe you if this anticheat was part of a more solid, well-known brand, like how I trust Windows Defender despite it being similarly closed-source, however that is exactly the problem… You are repelling all users who might’ve genuinely be interested by:
- Making the product extremely expensive (especially for people like me who live in 3rd world countries)
- Making bold, unbacked claims which people (demonstratedly) doubt
- Having a not-so-well-known brand, not enough for anyone to trust you 100% here except for people with a buttload of money to waste.
What kind of competent exploiter loads their UI on the Roblox client? And how are you detecting external UI? Do you have some secret way to escape the Studio sandbox? Better report that to Roblox, you’ll certainly make more money selling this idea than the ac.
Ok… so your ac is essentially just a really watered down version of more reliable and trusted server-side acs such as Knightmare…
Also, literally noone has been able to reliably detect aimbot/user input enhancements in general with no false positives… these types of cheats are very advanced and natural nowadays, indistinguishable from just a player being really, really good… If you can do that, why are you here in Roblox? Go make the next big FPS game!
And all that with a pinch of putting other resources down, just as the cherry on top…
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This guy rage baiting the whole dev forum stop interacting with this guy and his non evident AC.
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It is pretty sad to see just because you don’t know something, it isn’t true (in your perspective).
I’ve already explained a lot of stuff, and not going into details. If anyone wants to test whether this is real or not, I have a place that you can play, to test it yourself. (From mid 2024)
Keep in mind I am not really criticizing your ac, per se, just pointing out why people don’t trust this, and why, if you can do all these things you claimed, you shouldn’t be working in Roblox as a lowly dev like the rest of us. You should go out and show the game world what you can do
(Also putting down other peoples resources still applies, even if everything I said was false.)
I never made that kind of example. I literally just said you’re selling the Ban API as an anticheat feature when it is not and simply a side effect of the Ban API; never did I delve into children and their parents being punished so they will as well…?
The RBX::ScriptContextFacets::WaitingHybridScriptsJob vft + 0x6 point is to try and make across that this is the kind of stuff you implied on your messages “We detect injection with new methods because we know what exploits hook!!!”
An exploit can work perfectly fine without hooks; hell, I could get away with no hooks on RbxStu V3/V4 if I wanted and didn’t care for game:HttpGet, because security can be achieved by shadow hooking VFTs on the property descriptors and so on.
You also point out the relationship to exploit developers on your website, not to judge, but DX9Ware is a kernel external cheat, nothing related to internal Luau execution; Solaris is a paste from Incognito and initially just stole Quiving’s Solara to work, from what I recall, as well as being in both cases an external that works by bytecode replacement, and that by itself is already detected natively by Roblox on their script hash checks. Nox I never even heard of.
If you’re implementing a Luau detection system, you don’t just come out with external cheats that use a driver to read memory to bypass Hyperions’ deleter2 memory protections and put it as your backing to write this, while I’m probably certain they have Luau VM experience; you cannot compare the workings of an external with an internal cheat.
All you just confirmed is that you’re detecting hooks, and that’s your main selling point. If an exploit doesn’t set any hooks, then gg, it’s undetected, I suppose…?
I know lots of exploits, and some developers have begun not even making script objects because of this detection, back a fair share of time ago, so the InstanceCount detection is done. CoreGui has some issues, but some commercial exploits are already making their own way of this to remain completely undetected. No weak tables or anything, just as Script-Ware V2 used to be on gethui and how Synapse X/V3 used to be on syn.protect_gui.
Stop using misleading advertisements and messages; that’s literally all the complaints throughout this. You’re selling this as penicillin when it’s just a concoction of drugs dressed as one.
And if I just understood properly, did you just say you detect UI completely external to the engine from Luau…? Please check when you write if this is what you intended, because this is then just complete bullshit. I don’t get how you claim my point and joke about RBX::ScriptContextFacets::WaitingHybridScriptsJob VFT hooking is “making fun of this” when you write messages that make it look like you’re detecting native code from pure Luau. Who the hell that has programmed exploits, used them or developed games wouldn’t laugh at this?
Check through all your messages before you answer again, because I wholeheartedly think you are making mistakes on your writing.
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Those people have complained about everything, this is Roblox average user behavior reaction to something related to exploiting. We’re already trying to spread this over the large Roblox Games, the goal is to have the least people that can get their hands on the premium version, so in the long run it can help the big games that can afford it. While for the smaller ones, we’ve kept the standard version, which is very similar to your average Roblox Anti-Cheat but even better with banwaves, dashboard, analytics from website, etc.
I have already spent so much time replying, so i won’t reply to every point here.
And if I just understood properly, did you just say you detect UI completely external to the engine from Luau…? Please check when you write if this is what you intended, because this is then just complete bullshit. I don’t get how you claim my point and joke about RBX::ScriptContextFacets::WaitingHybridScriptsJob VFT hooking is “making fun of this” when you write messages that make it look like you’re detecting native code from pure Luau. Who the hell that has programmed exploits, used them or developed games wouldn’t laugh at this?
The answer is yes, and it got used to detect DX9 back then which is external kernel-level cheat.
So you’re saying, for the people who are poor they get a normal anticheat with some cool ui, and for rich people they get a normal anticheat with some cool ui + untested features… Ok… Great…
What’s even the point of posting this to the forums if your main goal is to appeal to enterprises? It’s not like dobig scrolls around the forums like he’s grocery shopping for food…
Also, banwaves are nothing special… I can do that in a few lines of code + a few more for an external proxy!
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Please understand this is not related to rich people, its just that the exploiters would otherwise also get their hands on the Premium anti-cheat easily wide-spread. We’re selling this only to trustworthy game developers the premium version.
. Just. because honestly I’m not going to take that at actual face value.
This just looks like complete ragebait ngl, and I have seen pasters begging for injectors and calling themselves real programmers while they’re unable to fix exceptions on their manual mapping.
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Download DX9Ware if you want, you’re welcome to join the testing place and watch how you get detected lol.
It’s funny you are still calling this bait, when i’ve offered you to join the test place if you want to test it.
This is assuming exploiters can’t just… buy it themselves? You’re saying theres an additional step above paying 1k$? Dude…
Seriously though, until you give us some actual evidence for your anticheat features working as intended, peer reviewed by other well-known anticheat devs, I don’t think anyone is gonna trust this enough to waste 30 dollars a month, at minimum.
Also, why didn’t you wait until May to post this??? Atleast by then you would’ve maybe had some videos and/or backing in general for your features…
For an ac which is advertised as being Roblox’s most powerful, there sure is alot of shortsightedness in how this is marketed
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We’re just starting, we’re building portfolio and will be even more especially from May that’ll be much more obvious.
So why didn’t you post this in May?
Provide the footage yourself. That’s something everyone does when showcasing anticheats very much.
I’m not going to buy DX9Ware or show receipts; you’re to defend your anticheat yourself, not rely on another user testing for you.
For portfolio and introduction to people.