Response to code safety review discussion

Again, 70 voters is nowhere close to half the community. You can’t say 87.1% of Roblox dislikes the update when you’ve only asked 70 people.

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70 voters gives a clear margin, especially because of the fact that 87.1% fo the voters voted no.

ROBLOX still needs to explain why they think it’s more important to have their moderators spend time moderating things that are PRIVATE vs. content that is PUBLIC such as messages and misbehavior on the platform.

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It’s not a stupid idea; it’s done for a very specific reason.

To find people who create malicious games that break the terms of service.

Be it some sex game, a phishing prompt or a game that tracks some sort of data without your permission; it could be literally anything.

Roblox owns the entire platform and you can never tell them that they don’t have the right to read the code that you upload to it. Because they do have the right. It’s in the terms of service.

All of the things you listed that this system can attempt to find could be found using the reports system.
Roblox should be investing resources into fixing their moderation system, so that reports are actually read by a human (assuming the account that sent the report is at least one year old). Currently, I do not even bother to use the report function. If roblox fixed their moderation system, then this system could be used on games that received reports and free models. Otherwise it is just a waste. I think a roblox user would be able to identify if a… erm… graphic male reproductive organ… were to appear on a character better than a bot that reads through code and attempts to find a part where it creates 2 spheres and a cylinder with their colour set to skin colour. As for data tracking, what data would be tracked? What would that data be used for? The roblox website probably has more trackers than any roblox game.

I really hope that Roblox works more on trying to detect code that is actually malicious.

I’m kinda upset that my code that had words in an array that Roblox deemed inappropriate warranted my account a termination in minutes yet these people whom I’ve reported abuse numerous times and still not deleted over 20 days.

Code that can be unknowingly inserted into peoples games and not even noticing it till they notice that other players in their game, people that maliciously inserted scripts with the use of these plugins into the player games, starts doing absolutely anything they want in the players game.

I’m talking about things like requiring Chat Service and disabling filtering, the van kidnap script, obnoxiously loud noises, anything…

All these plugins that I’ve reported abuse 20 days ago and even made a devforum post about are still up.

Where do I ask a code reviewal team to review this?

One of the backdoors are severe enough that they’re already loaded with a fully blown exploit kit.

Another one of the place teleporting backdoors already racking up over 5k dislikes and is still up.
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Code is only checked if specialist moderators need to double-check for harmful (we’re not talking about ‘swear words’ here) content. Please read the OP before behaving interrogatively.

The only thing I am personally really worried about with this update is my account getting randomly terminated. I have seen a couple people in this thread who said their account was terminated without explanation which is very concerning.
I do not agree with all of the people saying their code should only be read by them considering you are using Roblox’s software to make games using Roblox’s Lua and hosting your game off of Roblox’ Servers. Anything uploaded to Roblox’s platform should be moderated, but I feel like the system could be a lot better. For example, the moderation team could send us a message or email such as:

Our team has reviewed your code and found inappropriate content in [game name]. It is [script name] at [line number]. Please fix this within # days, else we will have to terminate your account. If this was a mistake please email us back.

Of course something more professional that that, but you get the point.

All of this is new as of now, and I am sure in the future Roblox will upgrade the system to make it acceptable by all. Thanks for reading.

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They are definitely not lacking in the funds department. Especially with DevEx. Those payouts are tiny, ROBLOX takes a big chunk.

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Dude if people are using API keys in their games they should stop using them from now on. There’s no point of doing that. Also I am not saying I agree with the whole update, I agree with part of it.

Thats not the point. There have been so many false positives its scaring people to the point where they dont want to make games out of fear of termination.

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Yes but roblox isn’t looking for stuff such as swear words they are looking for more adult content things like NFSW things. False positives barely happened, also what’s the problem with reviewing your code roblox

said this. They will not go checking the whole game’s code. I don’t think there’s anything to worry about then.

They may have the ability to check it but the point is that people using certian code are not comforatable with the idea of people checking their code. Some people have special API keys, some people have special webhooks that they dont want getting out.

Roblox’s moderation is already bad and people are getting stressed out of fear of termination from some free model code or code that is harmless or something people dont see. The point is that this can destroy peoples carrers through false bans.

I agree with everyone who disagrees with this update, it isnt protecting anyone except for people using open source/free model code. This already has so many flaws.

You are very stubborn, you are ignoring everyones opinion. Litterally everyone for the last 270 replys has been against this and you think, " Oh just stop using roblox, make your own engine".

Some developers make their full income off roblox and cant just leave, thats why they hate this update, them getting banned can pontenitally stop them from paying rent of for basic living needs.

Please think about my points and then reply.

Regards,

  • EternalCanadianDev
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One thing I’m noticing is that many people use free models, plugins, and other things that they didn’t build themselves.

I’ve taken free models that I know have viruses and checked out the virus’ source code. Many of the scripts seem like the type of code that would get flagged by the system.

I have checked my places and removed all malicious code that I can find (mainly from plugins), but there could be many users who still have these viruses in their games. Many of these scripts don’t work, so it would be hard to find them at first glance. The code reading bot could easily swing the ban hammer on anyone who has a virus in their game. That would quickly mean a lot of false bans, and the appeals team would quickly throw out all of their appeals.

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Many of these scripts date back to years, some even 2008. That is plenty of time for anyone to take a free model or plugin. Someone could be falsely banned for using a free model that they put in their game years ago.

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A bot doesnt take manpower. I hardly see how it is a waste of time.

Also, you are missing a lot of the point. Roblox has always had access to your places. Always. They always have and always will.

Giving the moderation staff access to your places hardly constitutes a waste of time, considering that they are probably investigating something if they even are accessing your places.

This thread is not about reforming the moderation system.

I would also hope you would have had strict rules in place revolving around giving out user data, but that did not seem to stop a breach.

In the light of recent events do you really expect us to trust anyone reading our code.

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Remember how everyone was scared that admins would leak the code? Well, an admin was just caught being bribed by a hacker (and accepting) to release user information.

You guys need to start taking more care of the website. This isn’t the same thing as the code review topic, but it’s very similar.

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The person who was caught was a moderator, not an admin.
I’m pretty sure they don’t have access to user places/code.

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That doesn’t matter. The point is that if it happened to a moderator, it could most certainly happen to a code reviewer.

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