At the end of the day all an image is is an array of pixels. You can apply a lot of optimisation tricks to make image analysis take just milliseconds.
Yes, it’s called OCR. I recommend you read up on it - very interesting!
At the end of the day all an image is is an array of pixels. You can apply a lot of optimisation tricks to make image analysis take just milliseconds.
Yes, it’s called OCR. I recommend you read up on it - very interesting!
Do you as a human physically capture each individual of those million pixels to be able to recognise what the image is conveying?
AI uses dimensionality reduction and other clever tricks to reduce the size of the problem significantly.
Just to add, (in mostly opinion), even roblox itself has filtering issues and some users can swear outside of the filters, upload inappropropriate content, and even make very and highly inappropriate games. Moderation of user-created / user-generated content is up to the combined tasks of in-game / content moderators as well as users who report the events themselves for moderator review.
Banning drawing games, to me, is as reasonable as banning catalog item wearing games (or even the catalog itself), building games, music composition games, hell even VR games or the chat system. Online interaction isn’t even rated by the ESRB for a reason. While something like a “nsfw detector” that filters all inappropriate content would be awesome, it is not really feasible and humans continue to be more accurate at deducing and reporting bad behavior.
If you see something inappropriate, feel free to do something about it, but this doesn’t mean that just because the internet exists, no one should be allowed to use it because trolls also coexist. Best you can and should be able to do is be a minature content cop or help handle cases yourself by being a volunteer or paid moderator for whatever games you work on, own, or are hired for.
Unfortunately, playing any online game means you automatically sign up to potentially see bad, crude, and disgusting things and behavior, either visually, audibly, or what have you (unless it is the most filtered game in the universe). This is just human nature but thankfully this does not exist everywhere and modern culture is already used to it and also enforces heavy moderation.
I understand where people come by of saying they DO NOT agree with drawing games.
It could have an affect on people live streaming for a younger audience, and could ruin a players experience with that game if people do not try their suggested drawing.
There are many solutions to fixing that issue by simply kicking that drawer from drawing based on votes from the players trying to guess it.
Let’s say there is a bad actor who is in a drawing game just to draw NSFW images, or write NSFW things. There are two possibilities for each player.
A: They are too young and/or too innocent to understand what it is, and therefore it may confuse them, and they will either ignore it, or ask their parents about it. Their parents will then take the action they deem responsible whether that being tell the kid they can’t play the game anymore, or something else.
B: The kid knows what the drawing is, and is therefore mature enough to make their own decision whether that is laugh at it, ignore it, leave the game, etc.
I don’t think any harm is really done in either scenario, other than perhaps a developer losing players. All drawing games should just have a vote kick function so that bad actors can be gotten rid of without outside interception.
They already use bots to moderate items so it shouldn’t be to much difficulty to adapt the bot to work with drawings.
Depending, since some players can make innapropiate things in lot of things. On a building game or F3X they can make innapropiate things too. I think that they can be allowed but maybe only with a systems that detects If someone is making something innapropiate or not. And yea, that’s my opinion.
I would say drawing games are the same equilvancy as speaking in game. It’s hard to control the inappropriate language unlike that of a chat. Unless you have an algorithm set up to catch a drawing that resembles anything like an inappropriate symbol or image.
The problem even with that is, what if your algorithm picks up a symbol that isn’t appropriate and bans the kid and reports the player to Roblox?
As of right now I don’t see a drawing game like “Draw Something”, being a viable option.
But, do not count out this idea in the future, who knows what steps Roblox will take in the future.
Well, maybe Roblox could consider enabling those games only for a certain age range?
You can’t shelter children from everything. Just because you can ruin an experience with someone perverse doesn’t mean it should be 100% removed.
Lets say we removed drawing games from roblox, what then? What about shooting games that allow you to "draw’ things with bullet-holes? Are we going to ban bullet-holes from roblox? A couple bad apples shouldn’t ruin the batch. Just report the user to roblox, kick them from the game and move on. Even roblox’s chat filter has huge blatant flaws but they’re not going to remove chatting from the game.
Roblox has a legal and social obligation to safeguard children on its platform. It isn’t a matter of fairness - it’s about protecting children and vulnerable users from being able to share personal information, be exposed to extremist / violent / pornographic content, or otherwise be endangered.
That is the paramount concern, and where there is a definite and unmitigated risk for that kind of issue to happen in drawing games there is an obligation for Roblox to moderate it accordingly.
They should just make drawing games for 13+ or something. They shouldn’t be banned but they should be moderated and have a report button for drawing.
Or as others have said, an AI to detect bad drawings.
Unless there is a system that moderates each drawing and can recognize any inappropriate or Profanity than yea but if theres none of those I would say big no
I’d say no, because I played a game like this once, and (Unfortunately), lots of people wrote inappropriate words in their drawings .
The ideology behind an attempt to filter 100% of all inappropriate content accurately is simply absurd. Roblox, being an online multiplayer CREATION platform integrated with various methods of communication and a poorly performing chat filter already throws the idea of a 100% kid-friendly experience out the window, and that’s simply the reality of it.
The idea of trying to remove drawing based games from the platform is simply an idea that would be frowned upon by the majority of the Developer Community as it would just be a poorly made decision aiming towards a goal that is nonexistent.
If anything, its better to have drawing games on Roblox rather than the user going to a third party site where inappropriate drawings are probably not the objective, but also not against rules (skribbl.io).
Taking a realistic approach, I would voice what others have said. Basically, theres the line between knowing what the drawing is, and not. In either case, what can not allowing drawing games on Roblox do?
Why not encourage parents to simply tell the kids the truth about the stuff we consider “inappropriate” instead of alienating it.
Therefore making everything “Appropriate”
My opinion on the matter has actually changed drastically compared to my first response, I think most kids 6-7+ would already know that nudity or bad words etc in a kid friendly game is inappropriate
I personally don’t think rarely occurring incidents of this are that impactful, but I still believe that the developer should try to prevent this from occurring as best as they can, and perhaps to have some sort of warning that this can rarely happen
If there was a option for 13+ I wouldn’t have a problem with this at all, but I’m still unsure about 12-
They should be allowed, but with either an AI that can detect inappropriate words/drawings, or the game could just be 13+, or a flagging system in which if a player gets flagged by multiple different players, they get kicked/banned (basically votekick) - could also be just reporting them and their drawing to moderators etc.
And… the thing that @LowPolys said could happen but the problem is that, kids these days know stuff… whether they’re young or not
But anyways, drawing games are a part of roblox so they shouldn’t be banned at all. Just try any solutions and it will be totally appropriate, I guess?
If it’s still gonna be a problem after that, well…
It has to be be gone forever
(I still don’t support it being banned though…)
The AI compares the position of the drawing and checks for a range of drawings that are deemed inappropriate.
So you have a letter F it analyze position of each pixel’s position and compares it to a model of inappropriate shapes or shapes that have been reported as inappropriate.
Then it deletes it.