Well, I guess that makes me part of the 1%. It’s cool to see all this stuff getting automated, it really saves the people behind this forum from having to manually go through every single person. Thanks to the team who made this possible.
Yes, it may make getting a member slightly easier, but it’s definitely not as easy as getting new member, which is great. Glad to see that the criteria had time taken into to make sure it wasn’t a easy thing to do.
read my post from earlier ;D. I doubt that will be a problem
I’m sure that they implemented a way to avoid this if a user spams as it wouldn’t seem fair that someone would be breaking the rules and getting closer to a promotion than active users who are dedicated to contributing to get the role. But yeah, I agree with you when you were talking about it still being ups and downs.
Does that mean there’s a difference between “presentable” and “acceptable”? Would you let me take the risk of not having it be “presentable”, if it’s “acceptable” enough to move?
Edit: off topic, feel free to reply in DMs. Sorry.
I’m mainly referring to difference between devs who spents thier time in roblox studio and sometimes will write something on forum and to people who just writes many comments on forum (not always helpful comments) now tell me (if you can), who will be having bigger chance of getting promoted: experienced guy in studio or just active guy on forum (Don’t get me worng i believe that automation now is needed for that many users but i still have some doubts if this system will be working good enough even for people who are more focused on creating games/models/scripts/etc in studio)
From what I’ve seen, you have to have a number of posts to get promoted. Spam posts don’t really work, as there is threshold that you have to meet.
@YoIobeans @REALTimothy0812 They won’t be ranked up for sure. But there will always be those people whom spam to just attempt it. Which is more work for moderators. I’m glad this system got implented but it has some weak spots. If you remember the moment tix got removed (a long time ago) that got abused aswell by players. I doubt that this wont get and attempted to be abused even if spamming doesn’t work to get promoted.
It should be noted that spam posts affect your moderation history (noted also earlier in the topic), and staff manually review those with lengthy histories.
I think the system takes more into account than simply post count. The people who got automatically promoted have a lot of posts, but also a lot of read time and days visited.
Every spammer that I’ve seen has gotten their post removed within 5 minutes. With the flagging system, these abusers will likely get stopped in their tracks. Yes, spamming is a problem. However, there are barriers in place to automate this sort of thing. Of course people will try; People are destined to break rules (and game mechanics). Sadly, this system can not fully be automated, but it can get very close. Say you had 60 flagged posts. Like @SuperSmartyPants600 mentioned, you will likely not be insta-promoted and instead manually reviewed.
@SuperSmartyPants600 I was saying that that was one of the thresholds. I didn’t say that that was the only one.
Did you read the entire announcement? Moderation history on the forum counts. Moderators will remove off-topic/inappropriate/spam posts and this will count on someone’s history.
Three things here:
Forum rank should not be considered as correlating with development skill necessarily. Forum rank is based on how well you use the forum. It might have been based on development skill 2+ years ago when the forum was still an exclusive club, but this is no longer the case.
If someone is a really skilled developer, doesn’t post often but does make pretty great posts when they do, there’s always the chance of them being ranked up manually. There will be manual rank-ups to catch the edge cases, that’s always going to be the case because it’s hard to describe all people in numbers. However, we expect that this automated procedure will cover most “regular” cases. Again, the criteria are not insanely difficult to hit.
We don’t particularly care if, say, the top #1 developer on the platform is stuck on New Member rank if they only ever make mediocre/terrible posts or hardly ever use the forum. No one benefits from this because it would just introduce noise to the forum if we gave people the permissions randomly based on how well they do on the platform irrespective of their ability to communicate properly. We care more about giving users this rank that actually go out of their way to help other users or otherwise make great posts/contributions. Of course, if they are stuck at New Member they can still make use of 99% of the forum through post approval.
That is an amazing change!
Before this, the process to get the Member role was almost impossible.
I would think it will be much better if we’ll be more aware of the criterias.
Glad to see that the the growing devforum is getting more automation.
I understand that it would be unwise to post in exact details how one would gain full membership but I have a couple questions:
How active does one have to be? Is it like one post or reply for a week for a month or ten for example?
Does the automation algorithm run periodically or does it trigger immediately after a user hits the specific criteria?
This is a great change, it’s reassuring to know that theres a system now.
Not based on needing to put in a certain amount of time every day or anything like that, feel free to take breaks. It just means it’ll take you longer, but it doesn’t set you back disproportionally.
I’m pretty sure you should get it within 24 hours of hitting the requirements once you do.
I have read the entire post. The thing i was talking about is more work for moderators (due to people attempting to be “smart” and ignore the warnings to not attempt to spam as it doesn’t count). But on second thought it is and remains their job to moderate the forums.
It is actually super easy for moderators to address flags, so you don’t have to worry about that. Discourse makes this super easy. A moderator can address a couple hundred of flags per hour if it’s all simple infractions.
Thanks for the response. I’m glad that the new process for gaining full membership seems to be well thought out. Additionally I think this change might make the community more active.
I’d say this was a much needed change, given the influx of new members going in, I was waiting for this change for quite a while.
I’m kinda confused on some aspects of it, especially on the moderation part (I might have gotten a minor strike for a OT post at some point but that was maybe 7 months ago)
By “removed” do you mean unlisted? Or is there a complete removal without any trace on the forum that I’d never heard of?