150-200 concurrents: Tips to improve visit length?

Hey Developers,

my Tycoon blew up some weeks ago and has an avg. of 150-200 concurrent players. The game is doing very good and the current visit length is about 11.45 minutes but sometimes only about 10.5

Im trying to improve the avg. visit length and planned to add some more things to do:

  • New areas
  • make getting cash a bit slower?
  • manually tasks to get cash (not mandatory for the player)

If you find more ideas, i would really like if you could share them and give me feedback and suggestions :slight_smile: Thank you.

Game-Link: Garden Tycoon [PETS] - Roblox

1 Like

Quick game review:
When I went to unlock the Forklift, it didn’t show up, so I think it’s a bug.
There was this one Gui next to the garage, images below show it.

Images

This Placeholder is visible, another minor bug.

I finished the entire game within 20-30 minutes, most of that time being AFK for reasons, so like you said you should probably make money earning slower. This would make the game a bit more boring, so people would end up leaving quicker.

Manual tasks, like you said yourself also seems like a useful tool to increase the average visit length. People will need to take their time to perform tasks, so it will add a couple minutes.

Most of the major things that could be recommended to you was already thought by you, so try using your own ideas. For a few things I would consider:

  • Save the gear items for later in the upgrading process, it quickens the gameplay and decreases visit length.
  • Add new worlds. Instead of a single small “paradise world” (I think it was called), try adding new farms, like a moon farm or what ever else comes into mind. That adds into the fun and average visit length.
  • Make things more expensive. The portal that brings you to the next island is only 25,000, I would recommend it more on the 100,000 scale. Dropper prices should drastically increase because they earn more money.
  • Add extra upgrades that cost rebirths. Adding special upgrades that require a specific amount of rebirths (without actually removing the rebirth count), like a new world that costs 3 rebirths would drastically increase the average visit length and return percentage, because players would need to complete the tycoon over and over again. Otherwise they just get a multiplier and finish the tycoon again and again without any other goal.
  • Add goals. Goals like getting a specific amount of rebirths or time played can increase the amount a player returns to the game.

These were my tips for you, I hope they work for you and your game.

2 Likes

Thank you so much for the feedback, thats what I needed.
Wdym by getting cash slower will make it more boring? Do you think I should make it slower or faster?
Also, wdym by new worlds? Im working on a new portal which brings you to another little area with like 30 new buttons (they will be expensive) and i thought about either making it for 100k cash or 1 rebirth but idk if the thing with rebirths will work, cuz it would be much to script.

Problem is, when i add upgraders for rebirths, players will only see the upgrader when they already rebirthed. Means, before they actually rebirth they dont know if there will be a rebirth upgrader.

Oh sorry, that was a grammar mistake. I meant to say that having people earning money slower would increase the length of the game, and that having fast money would make the game a bit more boring.

By new worlds I meant many other types of the paradise island, if you didn’t catch that yet.
Sorry for the late reply.

1 Like

I agree. The rate of money earning is quite high after the first couple of upgrades. Perhaps slow the money rate down, but add extra droppers. Just thinking of my fave Wizard Tycoon where it can take some time till the money really rolls in.

I can see that you CFrame the parts in. perhaps slow the speed of them down slightly, as they appear to teleport, rather than glide in.

1 Like

Thanks for the feedback. I will try to change that :slight_smile:

Ok, I’ll make it quick.

Screen

This is super annoying:( Don’t do this.



Do I need to say something?



Droppers are look a bit sad ( No NPC’s here?



Ok…



Toolbox, Toolbox and Toolbox. Younger Childs doesn’t care about Models in the Toolbox, Developers do. Just pointing that out, your game is fully of Toolbox. Why not make something on your own?



The arrow is leading me towards the sky. Now I know where to go!


Sounds are hearable everywhere, Animations are too long


Take an example from my Game, knowing you how much more Cash you made or how much you lost.


Make Button animations (I currently don't have a picture for it)
Premium Benifits?
MORE THINGS THAT MAKES YOUR TYCOON UNIQE!!!

I’ll add some points in the future,
Thank you for reading!

1 Like

Hey,

thanks for the feedback. The game is already abandoned because of roblox deleting it from the search. I’ve made new games who make a lot more robux/players and releasing a big Tycoon with 0% Toolbox soon.
I don’t care about toolbox tbh I just want to make players like the game and spend as much time as possible in the game, and that worked pretty well.

Using toolbox doesn’t mean not putting effort in your game. For the treehouse I commissioned a modeler but then ended up adding some models from the toolbox.
The game was my first game on roblox, so don’t expect the best tycoon haha.

Useless.

I don’t really see the need for that, players like the generic tycoons. My new tycoon will be better ofc and my current tycoon has things like customers and stuff.

It’s a nice feature but I don’t really think I need that.

1 Like

OFC It’s your game and I can’t force you to do this.


The toolbox is one of the worse things on Roblox and I wouldn't recommend using it. (except: Plugin and scripts).

Toolbox is basically doing this:
Nice day, let me do an Tycoon. Zed’s tycoon kit. Use some Models and… my tycoon! Now I’ll promote my toolbox GAME! 100% TOOLBOX GAME; PLEASE PLAY IT and buy a Gamepass!


Premium Benifits is one of the easy things you can do to gain: Premium Players! In your Garden Tycoon, just grab another pet from the toolbox and make it Premium Only.
Small features are good, one step to make your tycoon better. Without these minor Things, would you think that Tropical Resort Tycoon was so successful? No.

Yea but whats the problem with that? You can make a ton of money from those games and for me Garden Tycoon made me over 1M robux and now I can use the robux to make even more. In example, i used the robux to sponsor my new tycoon which already gave me a profit of over 800k robux in 2 months. I can now invest them to make more and more or just devex. The toolbox game was a great start for my “career”. I agree, unexperienced devs tend to just make those crabby cash grab games but I improved and try to make higher quality games. I will still use the toolbox for certain models because I don’t have the time to wait for modelers :confused: And tbh if you delete all the scripts, the toolbox is safe to use.

I agree and I do make a lot of robux from premium payouts in my new game but barely any games use premium benefits because why not make the premium benefit available for everyone? Premium players would still have the same features then. Premium benefits are useless because nobody will say “Oh nice a premium benefit let me buy roblox premium real quick”. Gamepass benefits are op but premium benefits not, that’s why not many games use it.

Tropical Resort Tycoon is the best tycoon on roblox, I agree. But in my opinion it had success because of the nice models and environment. The sounds/music are addicting and the gameplay is pretty good. It’s also a huge tycoon and that’s why the retention is also very good. The features make it more fun yea, but I don’t think resort tycoon has that much unique features. It has races, boats and planes which most tycoons on roblox have. (It’s still a very good game)
I’m also german btw.

1 Like

There we go to next “bad” thing on your tycoon.
It’s a cash grab.
My friend and I played the game some months ago, after 5 Min my friend suggested to play another game because of the much Gamepass Buttons. It’s losing you players!


I'm not saying that Tropical Resort Tycoon is the best Tycoon on Roblox, I just took an example.
I know that your German, I'm seeing that because your in the DEDeveloper Group. Nevermind, this doesn't change anything.

It’s difficult to improve visit length on tycoon games, so instead focus on retention and stickiness. In other words, give players a reason to come back and play again, rather than only once.

2 Likes

Yea, true. But 99% of the players wont come back in a medium sized tycoon. Thats the problem.

It’s not lol. You can play the game without needing to spend robux. Other tycoons are worse. There are literally only 2 gamepass buttons at the start bruh. Ofc there are more in the game, why would I make a game and not monetize it? Ofc I want money from the game, but I think every dev wants that.

It’s not. Why would I need players if they don’t spend robux? That has nothing to do with cash grab, but every dev needs an income.

Never said it does change anything.