Can everyone please remember that he is saying he wants Members to be able to view the Lounge Catagory. Not post in it.
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I’ve seen mixed signals, but let’s say OP wanted non-regular members to be able to view some form of the Lounge and be able to either create topics or reply to topics with post approval. To be fair, discussions on the Discussion category aren’t always 100% directly related to development, but non-regular members can post there (mostly by going through post approval) anyway. Also, there was a point in the existence of this forum where all members had access to the Lounge because nobody was a New Member.
So, maybe a non-regular members’ Lounge could be about other Roblox-related or only-sorta-Roblox-related discussions, and it could also be very useful for when threads on other categories are going off-topic so the discussion can continue in non-regular members’ Lounge.
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If that’s the case there is no point. I don’t see the point in being able to view if you cannot talk in it if It’s just a hangout.
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Remember to flag posts if they are violating the rules of the Developer Forum. It only takes a few seconds to flag one, so please do it to keep the forum clean from spam.
I don’t think that making the off-topic subcategory of the lounge viewable by members is the solution to prevent off-topic posts. The only solution for this (on my opinion) is flagging the off-topic posts so the moderators (Developer Relation Team) can take care of them and notice the poster.
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I can see some value to members having view-only access to the Lounge category as we have encountered some requests in PA that best suit Lounge but have told members to wait until they are regulars and then post the thread then. We have moved a few threads to Lounge and at times it may be helpful for members to gain information normally not posted on regular categories or look over some past conversations about topics that may hold interest to them.
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I think this is a bad generalisation of regulars. There have been instances where they have posted unsavoury content up to misusing Platform Feedback categories. I don’t think it’s particularly accurate to say that regulars know exactly what they’re saying or that they don’t create drama, this varies between regulars. Do note that regular promotions are also automated. Contributions and good standing are valued but it’s not above them to hit lows as well.
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If members get even read access to lounge, they’re gonna want to use post approval to get a post in lounge. Then people are gonna start using it just for off-topic, then word is gonna spread and people will start joining solely for off-topic access, defeating the purpose of developer forum. Then it’s gonna become the roblox forum again.
Please don’t.
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Isnt it job of post approval to prevent it?
Too much work for them. They already are overwhelmed with posts, I’d rather not. And not even that prevents users from trying. So no. You don’t need lounge. Just wait until you get regular
Regular is for posting to post approval categoryes. But it will be good idea (as i already saied) to create member+ that will be for activity and will give some permissions like viewing (and posting to) off-topic, but will still have not permission to post to post approval category without post approval process.
This only puts more work on post approval team though, and considering they already have too much to handle why should we only make the problem worse. Can we just take this to PMs.
Nope, i am trying to tell, that there will be role between member and regular and it will be just for activity, and the reqular will be unchanged.
You have an interesting idea, but unfortunately Discourse does not easily support additional trust levels by default. Trust levels are all hardcoded into the codebase so adding another one is nontrivial. Since this is for minimal benefit, the work effort implementing this isn’t really justifiable.
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Honestly, I never understood why members could not even access the lounge. I personally agree with you but I think we should be able to reply to threads as well. People claim “ranks don’t matter” or “ranks are treated equally” but this is proof that we clearly are not.
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And when does that happen? I know PLENTY of very active people who are very deserving of that rank but because of the insanely tight requirements they don’t have it or might never get it.
For example they might have helped 100 people in the help category and responded to update threads often, but because they never posted a tutorial or reported a bug they don’t get promoted.
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Absolutely no support whatsoever. The lounge, the entire lounge, was made as a private space. It is a perk of the Regular rank; giving access to new members will cause the quality to freefall and will likely increase the chances of leaking.
It takes months to become a regular, but you can get member in a few hours; I’m sure that nobody (including staff who speak/spoke in the category) want the risk of leakers- there are many private, and borderline sensitive, discussions in the Lounge.
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Member is just a sandbox. So you get used to how stuff works in the forums. Once you have shown you can use the forum well, you will get regular.
That’s kind of the point though. You need to show that you were able to post in restricted categories without a lot of flaws. i.e your posts are approved more than denied
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Am I expected to make 50 quality tutorials and have them ALL be 100% original before some regular beats me to it and post them because they don’t have post approval? I’m saying posting to the restricted topics is insanely difficult and Impossible sometimes.
Edit: wait, forgot you had to post in many private areas, not only community tutorials. I would also have to post to forum feedback and discussion I suppose
Ok, so time to throw in my two cents I guess, this thread has become toxic insane, lol. Anyways, I don’t agree, there’s literally no point in members having access to off-topic, it won’t change anything at all, they’ll only be able to see things, and honestly I disagree that lounge should be for everyone aswell, I’m not calling anyone in specific out but I know that there are a lot of inexperienced members, that would just kind of ruin it and bring it down if you know what I mean. I know that #lounge is a peaceful place because people talk about it a lot . I think that it should just be for regulars only, but hey, that’s just my opinion.
PA would be smart enough to know whether or not to accept a reply that is suitable for the catagory and/or thread. So I do not think that’ll happen. Post Approval actually reads the message before moving it (I hope).
Ok then, I mean it is hard for some people to get regular no matter how hard they try, had a friend that was so active and made many tutorials, he’s still not a regular.
No ones really saying that, there are some members that actual behave and are responsible and can be trusted with access to the lunge, while ok the other hand there are a lot of people that cannot handle it and would make bad post. It really depends on the person.
I mean not really, I been pa’ing to the #discussion catagory for a while now. It’s been accepted a lot of the times. The thing is not just anything will get accepted you actually have to put thought in effort into the thread or reply you want moved. You can’t just put, “yeah I agree!” Or “yeah! I always do that too!” and think it’ll be approved. That’s maybe why you can’t get your posts or replies approved.
I mean, there is a purpose to actually do it. Some people actually just post videos and stuff I think. Not all posts you have to talk on . I know @Mariofly5 made a animate list thing and posted it in lounge, you can just read the reply’s and like them, there isn’t a need to respond to everything.
Well, that’s not all true, just because their regulars doesn’t mean they’re experts and professionals. I’ve seen some regulars that get out of hand and make some non helpful posts.
Like I stated before, I’ll all depends on how you word it and the idea. I’ve gotten a few approved before. You have to be professional with it and make it to like perfection. You can’t rush it and except it to get approved. You have to put time into it. Sometimes it’s not gonna take a day, it might take two. Or a week.
Honestly I think the forums is formatted fine now. I believe that giving members access to the “restricted areas” isn’t a good idea. I mean I guess it’ll be fine if members can just read the topics. But if they reply to them. Na. I’m not going to screenshot but here’s the things I’ve seen. There was a scripting support post asking for help and someone in the reply section said something along the lines of, “wow! Thanks for this!” He wasn’t even the op. Thing is there are more people like this, going back to my claim that there are inexperienced members. And I don’t want to offend anyone, and there is some people that actual are worthy of getting access. But I’m also not saying letting everyone reply in #lounge would break the forum and ruin it. Which is most likely an overreaction. There is still flagging. You can flag posts that break the rules. Thing is flagging takes a awhile unless it’s something actually bad, which really doesn’t happen a lot. And if it doesn’t happen a lot in the public channels, I doubt it will in the other areas. But there is not much I can say since I do not have access to lounge, and I really haven’t seen what goes on in there.
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The Roblox Developer Forum isn’t like the old public forms. If the lounge will be opened to members people would join the Developer Forum just because they want the same experience like the public Roblox forums had.
The Developer Forum is ment for developers and is focused on developing on Roblox, not on having nice conversation about the trees in your town.
Another problem is that the most of the members are new on the Developer Forum and they aren’t very known with the rules (check one non-restricted category and you see alot of spam and topics in the wrong category). I am afraid that the lounge has to close if they (members) have access to it, because the moderators of the forum would have too much flags and other stuff to handle.
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