Ban chatGPT for answers and resources

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@orangewarrior78

I would just continue flagging ChatGPT posts the way it’s currently being done then, because what you’re asking for just isn’t something they’re capable of doing.

It’s depressing for sure, but lot of people on here already know how Roblox is when it comes to DevForum updates. So maybe just lower your expectations a little bit.

“What I’m asking for” is for them to add a rule to the official forum rules. Obviously that isn’t very hard, and I agree strictly moderating the rule would be difficult/not feasible.

I don’t think it matters if the moderators moderate accounts, I just think adding an official rule would discourage people from spamming ChatGPT posts.

@orangewarrior78

On top of that, the moderation system is very flawed to the point where only 1-2 moderators are shown online at the same time and tend to only be active for short periods.

The mods just look through the flagged posts and quickly chose a moderation action (they lose accuracy but it’s much more efficient). It doesn’t take very long.

Still a problem though, especially when one user is just completely spamming the forums with garbage while the mods are offline.

@orangewarrior78

And if even they tried to do something like this in their current state, they would probably just make constant mistakes and innocent players would just get incorrectly punished even.

I’m not saying they should take action against accounts for this, I’m just saying they should add it to the rules so it can be flagged like every other rule.

(Currently people spamming ChatGPT answers seem to have good intentions, but don’t understand that they aren’t being helpful. Making this an official rule makes it clear they shouldn’t.)

@orangewarrior78

From what I can tell, you’ve only been on DevForum for less than 3 months

This is one of my accounts, I’ve been on the forums for about 3 years now (definitely not as long as you though).

tl;dr:

• I think they should add “ChatGPT replies aren’t allowed in #help-and-feedback” to the official rules
• I think making this official would greatly reduce the number of people posting ChatGPT answers
• I don’t think it’s necessary or very feasible for the moderators to strictly enforce this rule
• I’m definitely not saying there should be any sort of “update” for this. Just a reply to the official rules thread

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@orangewarrior78

The developers could also tweak ChatGPT-3 to make it sound more realistic later on, even without user data.

They are tweaking it to fix specific things. They’ve removed some exploits and obvious problems that make it look bad. It use to not be able to do 1+1 (which was very bad PR) so they very explicitly put that into the AI. A lot of jailbreak prompts/methods were also patched, though it’s still pretty easy to do.

The improvements as far as how it sounds though will probably be small. The next AI will have way more parameters, so it’s not very smart to train in a lot more data to improve their smaller model. Instead, it would be better to train the larger model with more data later and then reduce the model resolution if they want a smaller version.

@orangewarrior78

I wouldn’t actually consider this to be proof though, since that kind of thing feels more like guessing or assumption tbh. It’s an okay idea, but they still wouldn’t handle out moderation actions over this.

I totally agree they shouldn’t hand out moderation action: it would be mildly time consuming to check each user. It really isn’t that hard to tell if a response is from ChatGPT though, most people spamming haven’t created a prompt to properly replicate the way real people write on the forums so it’s pretty darn easy to tell.

@orangewarrior78

They spend years trying to do forum updates that should be very simple and easy to accomplish.

I think updating the forums is pretty low priority. The forums are just built on Discourse, so they probably don’t have people who are very experienced modding it.

@orangewarrior78

they simply don’t have the time and resources to moderate a new rule like that yet

I think leaving developers to decide what is ChatGPT and what isn’t is fine, at least for now. It’s pretty obvious currently.

@orangewarrior78

if even they tried to do something like this in their current state, they would probably just make constant mistakes and innocent players would just get incorrectly punished even.

I agree they shouldn’t make moderation decisions unless it’s really obvious (e.i. one user posts 10 4-paragraph replies to help and feedback that are all nonsensical garbage in under 5 mins).

Even then though I don’t think moderating is super important. Forum users general just follow rules and for something as low impact as this I don’t think it’s a big deal if they just don’t strictly enforce it after adding it.