I was really disappointed by the time I joined RBXDev (Dec. 13 2013) Borderline was still stagnant, if not dead in its tracks.
Now the situation has come about where me and some friends of mine are working on a revamp and official release of the concept (Granted we are not the original developers, nor associated with them in any way).
The project would understandably take some time, but personally I can handle all the coding, gun making, UI design and implementation. With my friends we have about 70% of our bases covered
The other 30% is the maps, and marketing. As of right now we are looking to work with Video makers, graphics/texture designers, map makers, and advertisement designers.
Any work attributed to the project will be met with due payment from group Revenue under the group âStudio-Râ;
To the ROBLOX public the project is officially known as âProject Blockfieldâ for now until a demo can be published
If you are interested In talking about the concept, talking about joining, or anything else add me on skype @ mor.rbx@gmail.com
If youâre not the original developers and have no affiliation with them, are you not just making your own separate fps? Iâm just confused as to how this would be a ârevampâ if youâre not part of the original team.
I want to use the title, and because the game concept we came up with is similar in so many ways, we want to carry development on the old ideas shoulders to bring what we thought Borderline promised into light.
In that respect, thatâs why I personally label it a revamp. If you want to be more precise itâs an interpretation of borderline through our eyes, with more features, and given the same title.
Just use your own title since you already have one, I donât see how you could make a (spiritual) revamp of an old project if you werenât involved with it and donât even know any of the developers involved with it, so thereâs no reason to use their title apart from gaining traction with it, which is not very likable.
I mean, technically since the borderline team (We can assume) never took any form of legal action most productions follow, The name is truly up for grabs;
However, Itâd be like if for some reason, Gear Box stops developing new game Ipâs and you decided âOh iâm gonna make borderlands threeâ
The idea of remaking Borderline is just as legitimate as anyone on ROBLOX remaking a popular game or mod that originated out of ROBLOX; The simple difference is this isnât out of ROBLOX, but it is dead.
But it doesnât have to be. Just in the same way Nikilis or loleris were not directly involved in the making of the original concept of the Murder games, I am not directly involved in the making of Borderline originally, but I would like to be involved in making my own interpretation.
I think in general thatâs the big idea of ROBLOX for a lot of users including myself. Being able to make what you want to play, and using Borderline was a title isnât doing anyone injustice if itâs currently dead as it stands
Sure, you can use any title you want on ROBLOX, even if itâs copyrighted and the copyright owner doesnât complain to ROBLOX about it. You are also free to use the title of any other ROBLOX game for your own game or project. Even if they complain about it, itâs still up to you to decide your title.
However, I was saying that in my opinion since you already have a perfectly fine title, thereâs no need to use the title of another project simply for the sake of using the title (and gaining traction that way, since that is the only purpose), and it would be more professional if you continued using your own.
I feel like you are viewing this in the wrong way; I am not looking to use the title for traction. The title describes the best feel for my game
I think we can all agree, remakes of games with the same title putâs a bad taste in everyones mouth (a good example is the countless remakes of Deadzone)
But you must also consider I am not remaking a game, Iâm reintroducing the idea of Borderline with variations to the original concept that are adapted much to my own ideas- not to mention the idea of Borderline never manifested into a released game
And I also understand your argument for using my own title, and I have considered it greatly
@yenyang4 They have just as much rights to the title if not more, and can raise the same argument that it doesnât do me injustice
Thanks for the Links, although I doubt they will accept my friend request (and their inbox is off limits to me ;_; )
I will try to contact them through other means
Actually youâre wrong. if they can provide any dated production logs or any objects produced for a project titled âBorderlineâ (which they can) They can claim the automatic copyright that comes with such productions
"While copyright law has changed throughout the years, the current laws dictate that simply by putting your work into a tangible medium, you have the copyright to that work. There is no need to register the work formally. If you think up a poem and write it on a napkin in a bar, you have the copyright to that poem. Congratulations!
If your video game, including its source code and related media, is on your hard drive, on a server, on a CDROM, or even printed out for some reason, it is considered fixed in a tangible medium."
This copyright provides them with ample resources to file against you for ownership of the name.
( I should say that this automatic copyright, doesnât cover the name itself, it can provide legal leverage that you would not have)
Unless I am mistaken ROBLOX owns all rights to any content created on its platform, so they can make a case against ROBLOX, but not me. And As it stands I am not using any coding, modeling, textures, or other content they have made in my own adaptation.
Speaking of that, they created Borderline on ROBLOX, so they donât have a case against anyone. Legally speaking.
And then when they make a case against ROBLOX, ROBLOX takes down your game. So, youâre not as invincible as you think you are.
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Just because ROBLOX says something in their ToS doesnât make it the law â they could say they own the rights to every playerâs firstborn child, but that doesnât make it any more legal. ROBLOXâs ToS does not trump copyright law â the people who made Borderline originally own the rights to it, and ROBLOX only has the rights to use it. They donât own it.
And is it really that hard to use a different name?
This is not a matter of stubbornness, whether I decide to use another name or not? We are currently discussing the validity of my claim to the right to the name (although thatâs off-topic from the original collaboration post, but im game.)
In the ToS (Which is a document eligible for reference in any case brought forth) ROBLOX explicitly states they own the rights to all content you create on itâs platform; and the end user agrees to exactly that. ROBLOX has a document stating the user has agreed to wave itâs rights to any content created on the ROBLOX platform
And In this case it goes by the title of Borderline (or more specifically, the name Borderline itself.)
Using the title âBorderlineâ would be a hard case to make with the premise of copyright infringement when itâs being used on a platform that has the rights to that name, in a way that is indirectly endorsed by ROBLOX (i.e. Making games you want to play)
I was simply stating in my post I have a opportunity for anyone who is interested in trying to make this idea finally come to fruition. An idea that was primarily based on the Battlefield Series as it stands, with a storyline cycled through the game industry countless times (WW3). Aside from the Title (that ROBLOX owns) there is almost certainly little original about the concept that can be used as grounds for intellectual property rights other than the modelling and coding and graphics for the game
As I mentioned previously, just because ROBLOX says doesnât mean something is. Them owning the right to the content you publish is one of these cases. For example, if I upload YouTubeâs logo to ROBLOX, does ROBLOX now own YouTubeâs logo? They donât â that is only in the ToS to give their lawyer an easier time defending them if someone decides to steal money from ROBLOX in a lawsuit.
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Yes it is. âfixed or set in purpose or opinion; resoluteâ You seem pretty set on using that name.
Just throwing it out there, if you have 0 respect for what the original devs want to do with their project/its name, donât be surprised when other devs give you 0 respect for taking a game name just to piggyback off the hype.
Iâm not looking for respect, im looking to bring the idea to fruition to play and let others play.
Respect is far from what I want. I want the game I felt was going to become a reality. I have the resolution to make the idea a reality, so if the only thing holding me back from making that idea is respect because of a title for a game then I will complete that game any day
I will make it perfectly clear I am not a original developer of the game, only someone who is reintroducing the idea, and ofcourse provide credits to the original developers for a game with the title âBorderlineâ
The name of the original game has nothing to do with its idea. You can finish their idea and still name the game something different. If itâs tribute you want to pay, then you can mention Borderline in the description or in-game.