Changes to Place Management

I feel like most of the confusion between places and games is due to the names “Place” and “Game”. Many developers are not told what the difference is off the bat, causing those developers to end up being confused when trying to deal with adding new places to a Game. Places are often referred to as Games by the public, because the public most likely doesn’t even know that there’s a difference. Therefore, when people decide to begin development on their first games and they see the separate “Places” and “Games” tab on the Create tab, they become confused. The entire Game system is extremely confusing in general, though, adding even more confusion to the entire system.

Although this is a step in the right direction, I don’t believe it’s a good long-term solution.

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It would be great if new places could be added to games from the website instead of needing to open the game in studio to do it. All of my games with no start place were caused by me creating them to add their start place to a different game.

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Also, why would you create new start places for games with no start places when you could just delete the game? If the game has no start place it obviously wont be needed in the future, and if it is, it can just be remade with a new start place. I feel like cluttering the Places page of developers who have a ton of empty games is not a good solution.

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There may be some security reason for this. At the least, you should have to check off a box on the develop page to see empty games.

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As stated in the original post…
“Games are essentially projects, which can contain one or more levels (places).”

So why were the ‘places’ not simply named ‘Levels’ that would have made much more sense.

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How about this?

Changes that would be beneficial:

  • Games + Places merged into one page
  • Collapse/Extend button
  • Places per games counter
  • Search / Sort
  • Remove Game / Place
  • Custom Genres

@Seranok @zeuxcg

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Now that’s just perfect IMO.

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This is a perfect solution!

There should also be a sorting option for “Sort by last modified.”

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This is a perfect solution to the problem. The only change would need to be some way to distinguish the start place (other than just being at the top) so people don’t get confused.

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yes
i would have the Starting Place icon and then the down arrow to its right, and move create new place to if they open the place-list, otherwise its underused and very glaring as a bright green button

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Could we have a solution like WingItMan’s to this problem? I’m still having issues with completely worthless and unusable start places. The fact I can no longer add places directly from the create tab > edit game and I have to manually do it from studio is an unnecessary problem in of itself.

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I’m not sure why they’re forcing everyone to do things in Studio to make things “easier.”

A lot of people including myself do things on the website mostly because Studio’s places page is so unresponsive it’s unusable.

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I agree, this is a bad change to place management and can easily be much better than what it is now.

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I’m about to release a new update for my game. The map is completely different, many new features were added, and various bugs were fixed. We want our players to keep their data, but because of the huge overhaul, we don’t want to keep the ratings and what not.

Our release is supposed to be today, but I wasn’t expecting to run into this issue. I suppose we’ll just have to override the start place given the time constraints, but…it’s an annoying problem to run into.

@Seranok is there anyway to get an override of some sort?

We don’t have any official support for clearing ratings. You can always publish as an entirely new game to get a fresh start.

Why not just enable us to change the start page like we could previously?

Especially when DataStores are still not transferable to my knowledge.

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DataStores are tied to the start place of the universe, so if you change the start place to change the ratings, the data will also be reset. These changes to place management have not taken away the ability to reset ratings without data (we could never do this).

That’s unfortunate.

Really? I could have sworn we did a few months ago around January. We changed the start place, and kept the data.

That is not accurate – data stores are tied to the universe itself.

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