Well at least in 2 months we won’t be forced to either use antiwarp to block all the exploits but make the experience horrible for people with lagspikes, or not use antiwarp but let people just freeze their simulations.
Honestly I am glad I see the developers from phantom forces and MrRocketChicken push out server authoritative tech on boblox.
Will that include replacing the bitBuffer module that you are currently using with the new buffer type that Luau recently added? Those two would help a bunch making Chickynoid more performant.
It isn’t added to Studio yet but pretty sure that’s coming really soon, Luau version that Roblox uses seems to be a version or two behind…
You bet, its the slowest part of chickynoid right now.
It’s that bad huh 
To be honest I haven’t tested a lot with Chickynoid yet but with these new changes I might finally get to it… Great stuff!
@MrChickenRocket Correct me if I’m wrong, but is there any particular reason why Client → Server doesn’t use BitBuffer nor delta compression? Or would it just be unneccesary optimizations?
I got a question, sorry if I sound like an idiot for asking this but like if I wanna program certain behavior is it wrong to change the core scripts for chickynoid or am I supposed to never do that?.
Example here:
-- Services
local ReplicatedFirst = game:GetService("ReplicatedFirst")
-- Modules
local Enums = require(ReplicatedFirst.Packages.Chickynoid.Enums)
local CharacterData = require(ReplicatedFirst.Packages.Chickynoid.Simulation.CharacterData)
-- Other
local Weapons = ReplicatedFirst.Examples.Weapons
local module = {}
-- List containing all the paths for the Models for the weapons
local ModelPaths = nil
function module:Setup()
-- Create enums for our weapon models
Enums.WeaponModel = {
None = 0,
Sledgehammer = 1,
FireAxe = 2,
Sword = 3,
}
-- Make our list that points enums towards the locations of the Model instances
ModelPaths = {
[Enums.WeaponModel.Sledgehammer] = Weapons.Fists.Assets.WeaponModel
}
-- Setup new characterData type
CharacterData.packFunctions.weaponModel = "Byte"
CharacterData.lerpFunctions.weaponModel = -- we cant set to raw from a mod :(
end
function module:RenderWeaponModel(characterModel, num)
characterModel.weaponNum = num
local Rig = characterModel.model
local RightHand = Rig.RightHand
if num == Enums.WeaponModel.None then
-- Remove weapon model
characterModel.weaponModel:Destroy()
RightHand["WeaponGrip"]:Destroy()
else
characterModel.weaponModel = ModelPaths[num]:Clone()
-- Weld weaponmodel to arms
characterModel.weaponModel.Parent = RightHand
local Handle = characterModel.weaponModel.PrimaryPart
local RightHandGrip = RightHand.RightHandAttachment
local Motor6D = Instance.new("Motor6D")
Motor6D.Name = "WeaponGrip"
Motor6D.Parent = RightHand
Motor6D.C0 = RightHandGrip.CFrame
Motor6D.Part0 = RightHand
Motor6D.Part1 = Handle
end
end
function module:Step(client,_deltaTime)
-- Loop through all characters
for userId,Character in pairs(client.characters) do
local CharacterData = Character.characterData
local CharacterModel = nil -- I forgor how to get the model assume its there lol
-- sometimes data isnt loaded for some reason so check for that just in case
if CharacterData then
if CharacterData.weaponModel then
-- check if it changed
if CharacterModel.weaponNum ~= Character.weaponModel then
self:RenderWeaponModel(CharacterModel, CharacterData.weaponModel)
end
end
end
end
end
function GetPriority()
return 2
end
return module
Should I be writing this code that renders weapon models on client characters according to characterData on mods or would it just be simpler to just write this into the characterData and characterModel scripts. Also technically the part where I create the data for the weaponModel isnt even possible via a mod because we cannot set raw and also the mod sets up after characterData script making it error anyways and i would also need 2 mods for server and client.
I recently started to learn new programming patterns for my code and I think maybe the observer pattern could also help with this problem im having since ive heard it lets you add code on top this without coupling code.
Doing delta compression isn’t a bad idea and is pretty easy to use via the deltaTable methods. Some games have done this already (anarchy arena) I just have not added it back to the main branch yet.
It’s not a big savings either way.
Yes, change what you need to. I tried to make it so you can avoid it but Im sure its not possible for all additions.
I tried searching around on this post but I could not find anything that mentions Attributes. My game relies heavily on Attributes, is there any way I can use functions such as GetAttribute() or GetAttributeChangedSignal()?
There is no direct attribute support.
Out of curiosity, I am going to see if it’s posisble to convert the WalkMoveType mod into a finite state machine, Lets see what happens.
Hi MrChickenRocket,
I was wondering, how would physics work with the inclusion of Chickynoids. For instance, having a ball and moving that ball by running into it? The scenario this is for is a football game where walking to push the ball is integral to my system and I am trying to implement Chickynoids but I’m not sure how that would impact the physics of such. Also, implementing the unique hitbox onto the rig doesn’t seem to replicate it with Chickynoid, so is this something I would have to do within the module as well?
Thanks.
If you are trying to make a game heavily oriented towards physics i dont think it’s going to work because the physics that chickynoid uses dont work along with roblox’s so the ball is just being pushed by an anchored object.
Hitboxes on chickynoid only exist from the server ad have a defined size of a box thatd 3x5x3 studs and the character model rig is only rendered on client side and just listens to data sent by the server.
I just watched a seminar that you were featured in, and during the part talking about crates I noticed that the crates didn’t fall. I decided to test this myself and the same issue occurred. Is there a particular reason for this to happen? I’d like to create an object I myself could push, but I’m not exactly sure on how I would do that if the part’s physics is not getting simulated – although the collision works fine.
You could create you own physics system for the ball and this would allow you to network it properly with chickynoid and you could also have deterministic physics, this is how rocket league does it and how it feels so responsive: https://youtu.be/ueEmiDM94IE?si=KOUiLLNH9WP9MqIe
I see, this seems like a pretty damning challenge but I appreciate the video link its very insightful and I will try to approach it this way as long as I don’t procrastinate due to getting overwhelmed lol
Yeah it would be a lot of work, but if you really want server authoritative movement and physics that is the way to do it
this is kinda why im hoping roblox adds those server authoritative physics soon, at this point we are making roblox games outside the roblox engine, making our own physics engine and stuff, there’s some people who even made their own streaming enabled system.
If they don’t add their own server authoritative physics soon, the next best thing would be UDP’s which would make chickynoid much better. I’m pretty sure they’re supposed to be released sometime very soon.
they said they will do it late 2023, and 2023 ends in one month so, they should be comming out soon.