This seems to be an issue across all categories, but in troll posts, these type of replies intensify and continually bump the troll topic to the top. There was a lot of troll topic a couple months ago and I have many real examples of these kind of posts. Of course, I will change them a little bit so you just get the general gist.
This is off-topic, but keep making those sandwiches because they sound good
This is the best topic on the entire DevForum
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nice some random unicode characters spammed here to bypass the character requirement
gee, doesn’t look like the state of a certain setup thread
This phrase sums up development discussion right now
OP, I agree wholeheartedly. It’s very annoying to read through now as 3/5(not an actual number but seems like it) posts seem to be off topic.
What happened to DET moving posts to the right category? A lot of people get mad and keep posting it into the same category.
Actually, I’m kind of not surprised, that the fact that #development-discussion is already a trash hole because the Developer Engagement Team decided to loosen up control and strict rule imposition over the category. They can’t successfully moderate this with the fact of giving freedom for everybody to post there and post whatever they want, at the same time it also destroyed the quality because they can’t moderate the category anymore due to the fact that more and more people make it worst since the opening of the category.
I’m pretty sure as long as the Developer Engagement Team finds a solution to the “No Post Approval” issue, they’ll be able to find some solutions for this problem very quickly, or they’ll impose the new system over the category.
I also kind of find it hilarious, that the people who post trash, call-out posts, off-topic posts, etc at #development-discussion are sometimes the same people complaining here in #forum-feedback
Could someone provide a “Example” post of what’s ok in the development discussion category?
The guidelines are very vague, it should be something that: “Contributes something to developers” and “encourage discussion”. What do you expect that will happen?
In that post, you were asking a question, which isn’t discussion. Besides, there is multiple posts(and one official post) dedicated to explaining how premium payouts work, so your topic would be considered spam.
Dear lord, the amount of rants I’ve seen in #development-discussion is ridiculous. I’ve seen posts that clearly say that it’s a rant, yet they still post it. This is the one I don’t give the OP slack on, as they are intentionally breaking DevForum TOS.
This one is more unintentional, but anyone who looks through the categories will avoid this issue. Most of the time if you ask them to move their topic they will, but in an idea forum environment, people post in the correct category the first time.
I’ve mainly seen this happen due to events, but in one case a user intentionally was spamming exact topic. Spam is more rare then off-topic posts though, at least in my experience with the forum.
Thanks for the feedback, although I disagree, I am sure you can figure out how I can argue that it does encourge discussion, and I understand why you say it dosen’t.
Regarding the spam, the official post is in the “Anouncment” category, I am not sure if you are meant to discuss there. After digging for a while now I didn’t find any post specifically on how the discussing how the algorithm of premium payouts works.
Althought sure, I have found posts where this has been discused as a secondary topic, for example here:https://devforum.roblox.com/t/the-premium-purchase-modal-is-flawed/1028596
Also, would this post of yours count as a valid topic? To have a example of the topics allowed in the development discussion category.
Yes, it is. I asked how people would change Roblox Studio create any plugins that help workflow, ETC. If you don’t think it is fit for that category, flag it and let moderators decide.
You can ask questions in the replies, but it isn’t meant to be a 100% discussion thread.
If you want to continue this discussion about if your topic is justified in #development-discussion please hit me with a DM, this is off-topic for this thread.
I will use my own examples for what is ok and what is not.
What’s OK
This topic that I made encourages discussion, and is about development, and has never been discussed before. so it is appropriate for #development-discussion.
This topic is more of a Game Design question since I was asking for the best name for a high-tier gamepass instead of starting a discussion about it. Since it is about implementing game features instead of a development discussion topic, it is more appropriate for #help-and-feedback:game-design-support. This topic originally was originally in Development Discussion but later got moved to the appropriate category.
Actually these are the most kind of topics that I myself could confirm happening in #development-discussion, but, actually the other problem for #development-discussion is actually the low-quality posting, some posts maybe actually be valid for #development-discussion, I mean like yours, as we see it’s to analyze between cheap or expensive gamepasses and as developers share their experience with the thread, it gives newer or inexperienced ones some resources on what to do whether to make their gamepasses cheap or not.
The low quality posting however is really not getting the attention of the Developer Engagement Team as it formerly used to, and instantly take it down.
I’m actually disappointed by the fact that some developers even make topics such as “what’s the worst thing you experienced in development” in my opinion, this topics should be removed and should be considered garbage because it does not benefit other developers other than degrading them seeing worst and worst things in Development.
The Developer Engagement Team, should actually be taking action against these kind of posts however, since the removal of Post Approval, it gave them huge amount of forum moderation, and in the end, they allowed for some people to post whatever sometimes in #development-discussion, and that makes it more low quality, until they make a new system for Post Approval, #development-discussion is going to get worst and worst.
The only way to stop the trouble is for them to impost a system similar to the Post Approval system on the #development-discussion category.
People really do post things like this for attention, and I have seen much more immature things being posted there than that one example. I even remember seeing a development discussion a while ago that was “how do developers poop compared to normal people?”.
The real issue is, the quality of #development-discussion has been plummeting with the type of posts OP has mentioned.
This is technically one of the examples of #development-discussion problem, people comment things like this, and don’t bother to contribute to the discussion in a more efficient way in helping out to solve the problem, only to say that by common sense we already see that “nobody should post that”.
Sadly to say, people would bypass the #development-discussion rule that since it’s “Development Discussion” they would only add words such as “Development” in their title or topic to find a loop hole to post whatever they want on there, and this trashes the #development-discussion more, and most people are just stat farming which is why they post trash in #development-discussion, making it viewable for visitors makes it more worst, as visitors would be influenced to do the same thing, and the new generation of forum users would instead of making the forum a better place would make it much more worst as the number of rule breaker models would increase compared to the ones who really abide by the rules.
Now, even new generation forum users can’t even decide what to flag or not anymore, as seen when I saw a forum post, that is normally flagged back then by the community, it only ends up me flagging it while obviously it’s off-topic, and others don’t seem to care about it than they formerly did.
I’m also sick and tired of my notifications being spammed with ‘thoughts on x update?’ threads every single time the most subtle updates are released.
I counted more than 12 discussion topics regarding the new studio logo - when there is literally an announcement thread which completely nullifies the need for such generic posts and unhelpful rants.
Please fix this Roblox. I yearn for the day in which I can actually use the category as intended, instead of having to dig through spam just to find an enjoyable discussion.
Edit: Not even a minute after I create this post and there’s another!
(I’m not calling out the users creating these posts. I think the issues lie with the inner-workings of the forum itself rather than with its users.)
And look at that, I just saw another topic about the mouse cursor!
It’s important to add that the “What are your thoughts on the _____ update?” topics are also off-topic, as explained here:
It’s pretty irritating at this point that so many users don’t know how to use Development Discussion correctly. The last and only option we have is probably locking the category to Regulars only (but after they are able to get members to level up again).
First of all it’s irrelevant, secondly, there’s already topics containing what your stating, for instance, “What are your thoughts in this [feature name]?” when there’s already a topic in #updates or #updates:announcements already covering this up, where you could just reply to the thread, not to mention that appears to be like posting for the sake of posting, and it’s really lowering the standard of good posts here in the Developer Forum.
I have to agree that there are issues with #development-discussion . I saw a topic which was off topic, OP didn’t realize it, but he agreed and flagged his topic for deletion. Now, the problem arises where people will continue to trash with replies, 'This isn’t related to #development-discussion" . Due to call outs not allowed I will just link the topic, where the issue is persistent. Really people should know they should take it to DMs if they feel something is wrong with the post. ROLVe Community Warning - Development Discussion - DevForum | Roblox
If you read the replies, you’ll get an idea of what I mean.
