Create a new Community Moderation Rank to replace Community Editors and Sages!

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#1

Recently @sjr04 created a post that confirmed that the group and flairs for Top contributors were removed

Within that post

Ironically it happened, which stunned a lot of people including myself.

I feel like this is contradictory of what should be happening, instead of no community editors or sages, we need more members to be able to moderate activity! The dev forum is definitely growing from what it previously was and the influx of new members have cause topics to go off the rails. The #development-discussion category has become so un-professional, it’s hard to find topics where people are actually spurring a conversation that has not already been talked about or is off-topic.

Today, when logging into the devforum I took a look at the Development Discussion category, and wow!

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3 off topic posts in the top 6 posts.

The MY ROLBOX acoount got hacked post was flagged by the community, however garnered 130 posts most of which were also off-topic

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Yes the Dev Engagement team was pinged and 20 minutes later, the post was taken down. However, that was over an hour later. After the post had gone up.

So going back to my initial point, there are just so many posts that get posted here on the dev forum, if we want to keep a professional environment, we need a new moderation role that has a good amount of active members and can moderate posts that come up!. Otherwise more chaos will ensue. They don’t necessarily have to have flairs, but just having them is a good idea and helpful for the forum. This moderation role would not have the same power as DET in regards to having access to sensitive information, but would be able to assist taking down off topic posts.

Edits:
Moved the post away from keeping Editors and Sages, towards creating a new community moderation role entirely as they are confirmed to not be coming back and they don’t have that much power regarding moderation of the forum.

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#2

I totally agree on this suggestion, there are not a lot of editors and we need more of them, that ROBLOX account hacked discussion was an absolute dumpster fire, and yes we need more sages and editors! :+1:

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#6

These programs are dead, so no.
(EDIT: title of topic was edited)

If you want community moderation, you should rephrase/retitle your topic to be about that, not mention these former programs. TL3/TL4 are not meant to moderate, they only tweak categories/titles when there are obvious mistakes. DevEngagementTeam does the moderating.

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#7

I can agree with this. After seeing that disastrous hacked account thread, followed by a lot of unhelpful or redundant replies to posts which either contribute nothing or contribute something that’s already been said 11 times, I think the standards are starting to slip on the forum.

Having more responsible community members will definitely help to combat this; such responsibilities shouldn’t be placed entirely on moderators since it’s a waste of their time.

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#10

The solution is more people working in DET to help flag response time, and more reliable and consistant enforcement of forum rules.

Dev Engagement have the ability to suspend accounts and respond to flags, which community moderators (TL3/TL4) do not hold. Sages and Editors were more focused on ‘housekeeping’ responsibilities, rather than actual moderation. This meant they acted as curators, ensuring titles were presentable, and swiftly removing bad topics.

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#13

We really do need new moderation, it is becoming quite a pain to see really dumb topics be made on the development discussion

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#14

I definitely agree with this. Full support. This has become a really big problem. I also think that the engagement team needs to speed up with a solution to the removal of PA. This would give members a chance to become a regular and not abuse the Development Discussion category. Without a way to earn Regular, it is 100% going to be abused.

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#15

Community moderation is unlikely to ever happen considering the information moderators are given on Discourse.

That said, the community programs you mentioned were never meant as “community moderation”. Sages were meant to be community liaisons and Editors were just a patchwork replacement for Post Approval since we needed to justify our trust level being higher than normal.

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#16

I don’t think OP meant giving everyone the same power DET has, but just giving active, trustworthy members tl4. TL4 on its own isn’t “dangerous”, what is dangerous and can expose sensitive information (like email, but allowing mods to view emails can be configured) is granting the moderator permissions.

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The forum has grown to a size where flags take hours and in my experience even days to get addressed to remove bad posts. Community members tend to more actively use the forum, so they experience seeing bad posts as well the instant they hit the forum. Granting tl4 to trusted users would help in getting bad posts taken down quicker, of course det would have the final say on what happens. I always saw tl4 as the bridge to the gap between users and moderators, and in my opinion it is important that the gap remain bridged.

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#17

If Editors and Sages are gone, what purpose does TL3 and TL4 hold?

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#18

They are gone but the trust levels currently remain.

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#19

Totally agree with this. There are so many off-topic posts now. Especially in #development-discussion. Sometimes people post feature requests there, sometimes bugs, othertimes help with roblox instead.

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#20

I wanted to expand on this since I agree with the points you have listed.

Discourse gives away a lot of information about a user when granted moderator. One of them being a the general location and their IP which isn’t that bad in all seriousness but, shouldn’t be known by members of the community.

In addition, community moderation will never scale and the amount of work required will feel like a full time job. So, the feeling of “used” may be relevant here.

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#21

Wrt the first point, Discourse has a “category moderator” feature where you can set certain people to be able to handle flags in certain categories while not being moderator. It doesn’t give you full moderation capabilities, just being able to see and address flagged posts. So technically it is possible to work around the IP/private info issue on that first point.

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#22

They are gone. The only thing we still have is our trust levels for the time being.

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#23

3 years late but this needs to be implemented.

The removal of Community Sages and Editors turned the forum into an unmoderated wasteland at weekends. These people were pillars of the community and helped guide people in the right direction, but we’ve been without them for over 3 years.

Spam posts now remain on the forum for multiple days (they even have names like “memeland” now) and due to how this forum is set up, posts repeatedly flagged aren’t automatically unlisted. A community moderation role like what’s suggested here needs to be implemented. Roblox simply does not moderate the forums on the weekend and something needs to be done about this (it should have been done 3 years ago but it’s more important now than ever).

Wish I saw this post back in 2020, hoping bumping this isn’t an annoyance to anyone.

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#24

Please focus on describing problems instead of proposed solutions when posting or bumping threads in #feature-requests or #forum-help:forum-features.

This topic describes primarily a proposed solution instead of a problem. I assume the problem is something related to not being able to find the content you’re looking for, or that there is too much noise on the forum that breaks forum rules, etc.

Feel free to re-file your problem statement along the guidance in About the Forum Features category , or you can find an existing thread to bump.

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