Dangerous lack of accountability in a grey area of Recruitment category

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#1

According to the category guidance for the Recruitment categories, discussions about the advertisement should be held in private, not in public. This is deeply concerning and dangerous, as well as a subversion from how the DevForums usually operate - here’s why.

Scenario
Recruiter Alice posts a recruitment for a development studio role in the Recruitment category. They are clearly ripping off anyone who might apply, and include in their license agreement some unethical, concerning and potentially labour-code breaking terms.

Developer Bob decides to ask about this in the post reply. They call attention to these specific issues in a calm, respectful, and reasonable manner and have a discussion about it with Alice. By doing this, they are potentially violating the rules.

There is nothing in the Developer Forum Code of Conduct that disallows shady or unfair working practices being advertised in recruitment. We have a responsibility to these users to call attention to such issues. It is ethically wrong to not call out this kind of behaviour, in the same way it’d be unethical to walk by as someone is robbed. There are many young developers on the platform who can be used for work without any compensation, which is exactly why we have child labour laws in most countries.

I don’t propose that we enforce any new rules on posting shady topics, or any standards, because those would be arbitrary and bad. However, I think it’s vital that people can respectfully discuss concerns they have in public - there is no good to doing such in private, because there is no reason for them to act, and if they don’t listen there is no change.

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#2

Not sure I follow. The category guidelines only say not to start lengthy discussions in the category:

https://devforum.roblox.com/t/about-the-recruitment-category/153748

It’s fine to ask about / point out concerns about pricing if you were potentially interested in taking the offer. Just don’t start long-winded talks/arguments that derail the topic unnecessarily.

#3

Pointing out things like prices or user’s shady past IS what starts lengthy discussions under those posts since barely no one utilizes the message option.

#4

Then you would flag the extraneous posts. You can call out bad prices or practices in a couple of posts, it shouldn’t need a really long chain of back-and-forths. If the OP replies to your post denying the claims then that doesn’t automatically invalidate your post, it’s still there and people will see it.

Just don’t get provoked into replying over and over. It’s a waste of time for everyone involved and just takes up reading space for what could have been solved in a couple of posts.

Basic internet hygiene.

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