Agreed. My old friend stopped developing on Roblox because of how horrible the flagging system is.
I disagree (I am basing the information on the topic title, as the topic is deleted). The post seems to be related to a concern about cheating crowns on the Roblox platform. Developers donât have influence on giving crowns and arenât significantly affected.
On top of that, it seems more like a bug report. Generally, topics like these have a high chance of flag approval (based on my daily flagging experience).
As reminder:
⢠Topics should not be for other concerns
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The flagging was correct, DET handled correctly, and your topic was indeed out-of-scope. Development Discussion topics may not be related to one person or one question. Itâs not a Q&A category.
I donât know where you based this speculation on? When a post gets flagged, it gets sent to review. DET will always make the final decision. Your posts might become hidden, but once DET approves that nothingâs wrong, your post will become visible again.
DET generally reviews flags within 24 hours.
Yeah, this is indeed true and itâs really strange. When a topic is really popular, they are unlikely to hide it. They just approve your flag and move on. I have only had a few times that a popular topic got taken down when I outlined that the topic was rule-breaking in whole.
Why would your friend stop developing on Roblox because of the flagging system at the DevForum? Thatâs a bit too extreme, in my opinion.
Two questions I have to all of you:
⢠What do you think Developer/Development Discussions are?
⢠Could you provide links to topics that have been taken down without reason (according to you)?
I have seen it. Itâs not a very common practice because itâs tricky to get in the devforum nowadays but yes I have seen it before.
Most people donât know this, but how much time it takes for you to get promoted to a member depends on how much time you browse through the DevForum AND your moderation history.
If youâve never been moderated before, then you should get be promoted in less than a week.
If youâve been terminate, but got a roll back, then itâll take you roughly 2 weeks to get promoted.
This is just some extra information I thought would be helpful.
Where did you find this information? I have never heard anyone say that website moderation affects member promotions.
If they are not doing this yet, they should probably consider it since users who have been banned or terminated on the website can join DevForum and, if they get to Member too quickly, they can spam trash everywhere. It would probably make flagging more efficient if they do this, since only serious developers with little to no previous moderation actions can join.
I didnât find the information. Its more on observation. It took me a week to be promoted to a member because Iâve been moderated once before.
My friend got terminated, but then got a roll back. It took him almost a month to get promoted despite how much he browsed the forums.
Correlation is not causation. There is a hard limit on how many topics/replies you need to read, you guys probably didnât read enough within the week/month.
I read for 4 hours every single day while I was a visitor and it still took me weeks.
Just happend to me litterally 5 minutes ago i posted a topic in #help-and-feedback:scripting-support about needing help making the fps system that i had just made into a tool i go to the tutorial topic that helped me make the system for a minute thinking if i should just ask there instead then i go back to my topic then i see that its been unlisted the topic was asking for SCRIPTING support nothing else i just wanted to know how to make the fps system a tool.
(Sorry for ranting i just had to say that)
Devforum seriously needs to fix there flagging system it said the community flagged it but i dont believe that.
Heres the topic if your intrested (the one that got flagged)
How would i make this a tool? (FPS system) - Help and Feedback / Scripting Support - DevForum | Roblox
I feel you.
I literally got âFeedbackâ for supporting one of Robloxâs posts.
Supporting one of Robloxâs posts doesnât (and shouldnât) make you immune to punishment.
Instead of complaining, maybe you should read the feedback message and improve so that the next time you make a post it isnât taken down. If you think the moderation was ill-deserved, send a message saying why you think something is wrong.
Forum Moderators donât reply to their messages.
Also, do you think this sentence deserves punishment:
âYes! Thank you so much Roblox! It will make things so much easier! â
And it was a reply not a post.
Yes they do. Iâve had multiple instances where moderators have talked to me.
Yes because you should be using the like button in the first place.
Iâve replied to Forum Moderators several times and not even one of them has replied even once.
They will only like your reply if you say
âI understand.â
Message them again if they missed it. The moderators are usually busy if theyâre online. Usually after 30 minutes to an hour I get a response.
It baffles me thereâs such a heavy regulation on these forums.
I have to think minutes where a post would be appropriate to place, and it still gets flagged and removed an hour later.
Discouragement at its best.
Youâre a regular and youâve been here longer than I, but Iâll word it so that anybody reading this can understand. You have some good points, but I disagree as a whole.
This forum was originally intended to only allow access to about 2% of developers who applied to the developer forum. You would be manually reviewed to see if you qualified. The discussions here were mature and on-topic, and people didnât say anything unless they had something noteworthy to say. This forum, somewhat opposite of today, was low volume (i.e. a few posts per day) but had a very high information density. It helped too of course that the kind of people they let in didnât usually need help with simple things.
Theyâve obviously made the forums public, but theyâve tried to keep at least a reasonable level of mature discussion. To you it might seem like discouragement, but itâs hugely generous to have opened the forums up like this.
A lot of things donât need to be said in public places. Weâre all guilty of mistakes and off-topic interaction, but ideally conversations should be intelligent and focused, and anything that doesnât add or request information should not be said outside of the lounge. The lounge of course is still locked to higher forum ranks so that it doesnât become an excuse to post nonsense. There are those of us who feel the lounge should just be deleted.
It will certainly be discouraging to new forum users, but this forum was never built to accommodate people who donât read the rules of the forums they post in. It has been made to be lenient with people in a way most forums are not; I have seen plenty of forums which would hand out bans for not following posting guidelines. Here itâs just a warning.
I do think topics should be moved rather than deleted, and they are in most cases. This forum though has become a haven for duplicate posts and people who havenât bothered to do their own research before posting. Itâs always been plain that Roblox moderation isnât up to the task of flawlessly moderating several million gremelins who sign up for free, and that applies here as well. You remember what the old forums were like? Moderators were stretched thinner than they are here. The guidelines are strict, the punishments are not. I honestly think the developer forum is better managed than any other parts of Roblox.
My topic got flagged it was about what should new programmers first learn in coding according to what I believe it shouldâve been in development discussion
In honesty, very few topics legitimately belong in Development Discussion. Without seeing your post I obviously couldnât give you any advice on it, but since it is deleted I can only assume that the moderators were in agreement with the flag.
To be honest, just because Iâve been around here for a long time doesnât mean Iâm a regular. I hardly use the developer forum other than I really need to.
Back in the day there was some maturity as it was an exclusive forum. Though this also caused elitism, and pretty much something that discouraged me from this forum back then.
Obviously with the removal of the public forum, this has been a bit more⌠generous in its application. Though I still think certain forum sections such as #development-discussion feels way too regulated. Honestly itâs always #development-discussion that seems to cause problems. Iâve read posts of users that are apparently so fed up with this section that they do nothing but flag inappropriate posts 24/7.
Iâve had moments where moderators, without my permission, âcorrectedâ posts of mine in its spelling and grammar. While English is not my native language and the small errors didnât change the context at all, it leaves a bad taste of how moderators act. Iâm sure most donât like being corrected on their spelling / grammar, let alone corrections being forced.
This is just my opinion on the experience here over the years.