Just going to put this forward that I’ve had previous week bans before in the past and got accepted. Might be different depending on the ban but I highly doubt they’ll stop it for a minor issue.
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Although I don’t have experience Dev-Ex’ing, I believe this isn’t an issue. Paying $20/Month is not half bad for the money that can be made. Also, OBC is rewarding in the sense that you have access to everything BC offers and gain a minimal amount of Robux.
It’s possibly a marketing trick so children can purchase OBC because their favorite developer has?
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Before I throw in my two cents on this, I should clarify that while I have intentions of using DevEx, I have not used it before and do not currently see myself being able to use it in the near future.
With that out of the way, here are my thoughts:
I have heard that DevEx rates are being increased. I am not sure if this is true, but if it is, any increase is at least a step forward. Even if it may not be able to support a solo developer unless they make the front page, I feel you should still be greatful for any increase to DevEx rates, as this ultimately means that Roblox business folks see forking over profits in exchange for your work as the best way to increase overall profits for the company. Whether that increase is enough is not something I want to address, as I am in no position to make a statement regarding that.
Yes, I understand that I may be out of line, as DevEx rates determine your well-being and not mine.
I think that the OBC requirement should, in a perfect world, be removed entirely. I recognize that this is a pipe dream, but I would still like to see the requirement lowered to BC if nothing else. If the quote “never charge the developer” is true, this is a gross violation of that. Granted, changing the requirement to BC is still charging the developer, but Roblox already violates this statement in other ways (like the 90% marketplace fee for all goods sold by an account without builders club) but I am aware that these violates exist for the sake both the site and business’ economy. However, I still think that making people pay $20 a month just to get a payment is absolutely ridiculous. Most developers already have BC to avoid the 90% marketplace tax, and I feel like lowering the DevEx requirement to BC would just allow for
Too long, didn’t read…
If you’re increasing DevEx rates, thank you. Please lower the DevEx OBC requirement to BC.
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$20 towards a single Dev Ex payout isn’t that bad, but it adds up over time (also considering that developers only earn 18% of their game’s revenue). The OBC requirement is not an understandable requirement. Roblox is a billion-dollar corporation - I think there is room for compromise for Dev Ex rates + the OBC requirement considering the feedback received from over 50 top Roblox developers.
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More money will add up overtime as well, which would earn more profits. Take this list for example:
| OBC Funds | Income | Profits |
|---|---|---|
| $20 | $50 | $30 |
| $40 | $100 | $60 |
| $60 | $200 | $140 |
| As this chart represents, profits would accumulate and raise. |
- Formula
o2i2p=i-oo = OBC Fundi = Incomep = Profits
I actually never knew this. I’m not saying I don’t believe you, although I ask for this source.
The feedback from these developers were about the Dev-Ex rates, not the OBC requirement. Please mention this point’s relevance as it is unclear.
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If you read the rest of the thread posts, Blue101black displayed the ratios.
I am saying that there is room for compromise. The OBC requirement is a part of the Developer Exchange so it IS relevant to the topic. Also, the feedback was about “Issues with the Developer Exchange” rather than specifically about exchange rates.
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The simple solution no one ever mentions is to reimburse the cost of OBC and send it along with their devex if it was successful.
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OBC is tax deductable, incase you didnt know. You dont get all your money back but its some savings.
I’ve been moderated for holding a giveaway, which was categorized as “scamming” despite me not taking anything from anyone a few years ago on the forums. I think they’ll be understanding but still am unsure if they’ll see a “scamming” offense and decline, after I bought OBC for the sole purpose of using Dev Ex.
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This is a little bit inaccurate because the buy rate varies. On the low end, you have 0.012375 but on the high end, the rate may be 0.005714 (correct me if I’m wrong) meaning the developer can actually take anywhere between 19.80% and 42.87% which is a pretty wide range. Unless we have the actual average buy rate, you can’t say that developers take 19.80% of the earnings because it’s actually more than that.
The OBC requirement still deviates from the original topic as this was about the general lack of funding that cannot keep pace with the growing developer community and quality expectations of the games themselves. Regardless of your view on the OBC requirement, it doesn’t make that much of an impact in the big picture (not saying I support it though).
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I totally agree with you on that. I just wanted to bring up a few things that were left out of the discussion and/or not addressed by Roblox in their response to the developers’ feedback.
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If the person is only buying OBC because they want to DevEx, then they clearly don’t think the offered benefits are worth it, so that’s no help. And it’s not paying $20/month that’s the issue, it’s the initial gamble of “am I going to get accepted or not? Or am I throwing $20 down the drain?”
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The issue arises when the DevEx is unsuccessful surely? Because then you’ve paid $20 to be subscribed to a service you’re not interested.
I guess you could, on top of your suggestion, also pay back the fee and cancel the membership if the DevEx is unsuccessful, which is basically turning this into a $20 deposit to use the DevEx feature.
Which doesn’t seem like a bad idea?
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If by a longshot Roblox decides to reimburse the costs, it will not be available towards rejected requests most likely. If you have a notably bad reputation, and you are benefitting off the OBC service (being able to get daily robux + OBC features), why would Roblox pay you $20 after a rejected Dev Ex?
The simple fix for all of these problems is to remove the OBC requirement (and allow all normal BC and up members to Dev Ex).
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The idea behind it is that when they reimburse you, you’re instantly removed from OBC
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Users with bad reputations could collect their daily OBC robux, join 100 groups, make groups, trade, and sell items, and then right before their membership is about to expire they could try and Dev Ex.
Taking their OBC after the rejected request and giving them $20 doesn’t make any sense because they already took advantage of their OBC features before the request. And then it becomes an infinite cycle because they can use that $20 to buy OBC again and do the same thing next month. Basically this would be giving bad users free OBC each month which is a joke.
Only giving approved-requests reimbursements sounds unfair, but the main reason why people get rejected is due to bad practices such as scamming, exploiting, theft, etc. - so I don’t feel bad for these users. The requirements are clear, and everyone who is using Dev Ex should know the rules.
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Alright, good points, but cool idea:
Read the part where I just straight up recommend a deposit, as that is all the this seems to be. Otherwise the actual intent would be just “get more people to buy OBC” which I hope is not the case.
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The point of a deposit is that you’re getting the money back? I mean, you’re already paying $20/month, why not remove the OBC aspect and make it specifically about DevEx, which removes the issues you mentioned earlier?
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I’m advocating for removing the OBC requirement? What I’m suggesting instead is a deposit, which is held whilst your case is reviewed. If it’s spam or against ToS, then you don’t get the deposit back. If your application is all in order, then you’ll get the deposit back - whether you successfully DevEx or not
Not necessarily, they can use it for other purposes. Think of it like this: someone makes a group with OBC - it doesn’t necessarily mean that that’s the only purpose. Most users tend to make the most out of what they purchase, and that is a fact.
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