Introducing Archimedes 3 - A building plugin

bostnm · March 29, 2022, 10:37am

Hey, for some reason every time I open up studio this plug-in pops up and automatically enables. Every time I close it, although it’s starting to get annoying. I don’t know if your doing this but could you please make it stop? It really messes up my workflow

savio14562 · March 29, 2022, 12:23pm

I also have this issue. At one point I had to disable the plugin to stop the gui widget from appearing. I believe this also occurs during play testing too.

Scriptos · March 29, 2022, 6:59pm

Do you both have the latest update? This should’ve already been patched in the last release - the widget only enables automatically if you’ve left it open in a previous session, and the screen gui shouldn’t enable automatically at all.

@savio14562

Edit: Just opened up a place to test with the latest version. I launch the plugin, close it, then open a new studio tab and the plugin stays closed. Unless it’s in widget mode, but that’s intentional to mimic studio widget behaviour - I feel like if you had the widget opened then it should stay open, since that’s how the other studio widgets behave. That’s going to be an option that you can toggle in the next update. If it is widget mode that you’re talking about, you can switch to the ScreenGui by pressing this button.

Edit #2: Neither Widget or ScreenGui are showing up for me in play testing, so you might have an update pending in your “Manage Plugins” window.

savio14562 · March 29, 2022, 7:56pm

There was no update pending, however the issue does not happen now.

bostnm · March 30, 2022, 11:43am

I have no updates pending and the problem still occurs. I have seriously no idea why it does this or how to stop it. @savio14562 said that it doesn’t occur for him anymore yet I’m still getting it, like I have been for a couple months. Its such a slight thing that annoys me so much! If you could check this out it would be great

iltria · April 1, 2022, 5:20pm

Any particular reason why decimal points arent allowed in offset input? Very essential thing to have support for, I can’t see why it’d be disabled @_@

Scriptos · April 2, 2022, 8:21pm

No real reason, the offset thing was just a last minute feature added right before release so it was overlooked. Will fix this in the next update.

iltria · April 4, 2022, 12:40am

awesome! as a temporary workaround, i found that copy pasting the decimal number into the field works lol, its just typing in the field itself that doesnt work

MiroSpectre · April 23, 2022, 2:02pm

Would one of the glitches consist of what is below?

Scriptos · April 23, 2022, 10:16pm

No, the gap there appears to be caused by the overhanging parts that you have on the edge of the model. Archimedes doesn’t know that you want the big dark grey center part there to align with the other one, it’s trying to align the entire edge of the model.

MiroSpectre · April 24, 2022, 12:42pm

Thank you!! So just re-adjust the lining to make everything even and it shall be perfecto. Gracias senor! <3

TheRobloxGamer15782 · June 11, 2022, 9:54am

Good plugin!
I have one feature request:

You should be able to make nodes
You can select a face on one part like this:

ignore the “Selection Behaivor” window because i screenshotted it while using ResizeAlign
And then you can select another face on another part:

When you press “Render” it connects the parts that were selected
Unbenannt456

savio14562 · June 24, 2022, 5:01pm

I have encountered a small issue with this plugin. I am using the widget mode. Basically, what I did was:

Click the arrow next to the Direction Tab
Tried to click it again
This insane stack trace appeared in the output. Probably the biggest I have ever seen in my entire life

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When closing the plugin, opening it again doesn’t work and the plugin remains nonfunctional until you restart studio. Not sure if this is related to the plugin or if this is related to the studio-like roact components you use.

Stack trace in full detail

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Dev_ManuelC · July 5, 2022, 2:29am

I love this plugin…

Thanks for your work, it’s great for us developers, we really appreciate it

Suggestion:
Perhaps it would be a good idea if the “Enabled” button could be toggled with a Shortcut, for example by pressing Tab

Nouriel2005 · August 31, 2022, 7:44pm

The selection part glitch when I open Archimedes 3.

I select a part, but it’s locked.

Maelstronomer · October 22, 2022, 3:09am

Hello. Why can’t I set both Pitch and Roll angles? I’m trying to make a spiral like this:

Thank you.

Scriptos · October 22, 2022, 3:33am

Archimedes is trying to automatically apply the absolute best fit for the parts based on the edge that the Alignment mode is set to.

With multiple directions selected, there isn’t really a point like this where that’s possible for a cube, at least not for an absolutely perfect fit as shown here. Which is why plugins that try to solve this problem usually end up filling the space with wedges instead.

It’s possible to change the plugin so that you can select multiple directions at once, but in most cases (not yours, though) it’d result in some very ugly overlapping of the parts, which I felt would just be confusing and make the plugin look bad to beginner users, so I didn’t want to make this the default behavior, especially since in testing I ended up with results like these whenever allowing multiple directions to be toggled:

I have considered adding a separate checkbox in the settings that’s disabled by default but will allow more advanced users to just skip over the forced alignment and do whatever they want. I’ve been getting more and more requests to add this, so I probably will in the next version, which I’ve been busy working on in my free time.

If you’re in widget mode then you may be able to enable the “Auto-Resize” checkbox to kind of automatically correct for the gaps shown in your image, but you’d still have to alternate between directions. I recommend disabling that checkbox as soon as you don’t need it since that feature is still highly unstable and was coded rather poorly at the time.

~~If Auto-Resize doesn’t work for you in this case then I’m afraid that the moment you’ll just have to manually ResizeAlign to correct those gaps in your image.~~

Edit: Marked this out since you likely had to do quite a bit of that manually in your image in the first place, given the gaps between some of the parts, so the Auto-Resize suggestion here is pointless.

Maelstronomer · October 22, 2022, 4:07am

Oh, I don’t mind if it’s a bit rough in this case. Just need the inside part somewhat aligned. I ended up writing some code to generate it this way: (and chopped off some of the sticking-out bits)

local model = Instance.new("Model")
model.Parent = workspace

local lastpart = workspace["Part"]:Clone()
lastpart.Parent = model

for i=1,36 do
  local part = lastpart:Clone()
  part.CFrame = part.CFrame * CFrame.new(0,0,-2.5) * CFrame.Angles(math.rad(10),0,math.rad(1)) 
  part.Parent = model
  lastpart = part
end
wait(1)
for _,part in next, model:GetChildren() do
	part.CFrame = part.CFrame * CFrame.new(part.Size.X/4,0,0)
	part.Size = part.Size * Vector3.new(.5,1,1)
end

loopgen

I need a more streamlined elegant solution

Maelstronomer · October 22, 2022, 4:10am

By the way, I actually like that generation technique with the cubes. They’re cool road-like obstacles for physics-based games, like mine! I can see that being useful for spiral staircases too, or some chandelier or design

Scriptos · October 22, 2022, 4:16am

There is actually already a very finicky and inelegant (I know, exactly the opposite of what you asked for, hooray) solution for this in the live version of Archimedes right now that I think is just barely worth mentioning - which is that Archimedes has fields for position and orientation offset vectors. The inelegant part is that there are no ArcHandles or regular movement Handles created for setting these values, so you have to type them in manually. I do plan on adding Handles for this option pretty soon.

If you have the latest version, the fields should be down towards the bottom of the UI in Widget mode.

And, my personal favourite use of this feature, to quickly create a spiral staircase, you can just set the Y offset equal to the height of the part: