New "Dev Chat" Plugin

If this plugin is really a spyware then all websites are a spyware because your average website does this. end of discussion

2 Likes

image
Spyware is a type of malware, this is not malware.
Your device is not at risk. Nor is it sending this data to an entity which uses this to harm you. This is not spyware whatsoever.

yeah it is a bit dumb to save messages, but you can’t call it spyware

ok that’s correct, one of the only things I agree with you on. It is a bit creepy.

yeah they should remove that.

this is not possible as filtering doesn’t work in studio, which is why the creator opted to moderating via 3rd party

2 Likes

This is not spyware at all… you’re saying that which is completely false just because you personally don’t trust it, and I get why you don’t trust it I prob wouldn’t trust it either if I were in your shoes but you’re stating a lie, I’ve repeated this probably a dozen times and ill say it again… Text Filtering API’s don’t work in studio I cannot use “Text and Chat Filtering” that Roblox provides because they disable their API’s in studio, If someone knows a way around I’d love to know but to my knowledge it’s impossible and yeah you’re right about sensitive information being logged but I wouldn’t recommend people sharing sensitive information on this, and even if they do I know you don’t know me and cant take my word but none of that information is being “used” the logging is ONLY to read if people break rules i.e Discrimination, threats, swearing, etc… so I can ban them

1 Like

Look, it’s better safe than sorry. Just lock it to team create for now bc it’s better safe.

1 Like

We’re working on an update right now which is practically a re-script of our servers and this will keep everything so much safer so we wouldn’t need to obfuscate

Yeah, you’re right but hopefully in time people can come to trust that all we’re doing is checking if anyone is breaking rules and maybe we can even find a way to remove people reading conversations…

yes messages are “saved” but not to read afterward literally just so mods can read live as the messages are sent

also, there are no moderators right now it’s just me and the co-developer moderating, and it’s not like 24/7 moderation where we read every message

The plugin isn’t even active right now I shut down the servers until the next update releases because people have been un-obfuscating the code and causing trouble which is going to be fixed in the next update

Why this and not Roblox studio team create chat, it serves the same purpose

2 Likes

This works cross-server with anyone you dont need to be in the same studio as someone and you dont need to know them

Really, you can just constant dump and get the key that way, or you can use a network monitor like fiddler or wpe pro and you can get access to the URL, and the keys relatively easily. Obfuscating offers nothing but a little triumph for anyone trying to reverse-engineer your script. If someone knows how to deobfuscate your script, they know how to constant dump, and they likely know how to use a web traffic monitor. Really, you’re only causing more of a hassle for yourself than for others.

Not sure if there’s any other webhook but I saw a webhook to Discord but it seems to be a report feature (line 496 if you deobfuscated the code)

You don’t even need to constant dump it, you can get the entire source code intact as if it were the original (including comments!), the “obfuscation” they did was just turning the original code to a array of ascii codes and then when the plugin loads it parses the array and turns it back to the original code and uses loadstring to run it

1 Like

Hey wait, if he’s not filtering messages using robloxs filter isnt that against ToS? Cause the messages are displayed in the chat. Right?

That’s… not a good argument. A company shouldn’t store data maliciously on anyone. But just because it already happens doesn’t mean we need even more companies (or in this case, plugins) to do it too.

1 Like

Most likely, looking at the source code when the user sends a message it just sends it plain raw text, and when the user receives a message it also gets it from their servers, parses it and shows it to the user, no filtering done at all (code also doesn’t reference TextService)

1 Like

Also I don’t see why you don’t want to lock it to team create. Because the tc chat already does this

Why do you specifically value this over other forms of contact for developers?

No it’s possible but only in TC, which is why the dev does not want it.

Point blank though is that this is basically spyware and it’s hard to be trusted by new users because of the use of message logs and the risk of anything personal being shown, even if the developers don’t use it for those purposes, someone can hack into the system and use that information for malicious purposes.

Note that they didn’t even say anything about a defense for people trying to hack into their system, hope they thought about that before publicly announcing the release of this plugging.

2 Likes

I believe this database only stores names and messages. What could the hackers use malicious for that?

I do agree it shouldn’t be moderated by some person but th dude, he wants worse than safe, he dosent want to use the hacky method to filter messages because it would lock the plugin for only ts. Not sure why he dosent want safe than worse.

Names and messages, go scroll back up and look at C0l0r’s example

1 Like