Most NBC people upload shirts to groups, weather to steal a shirt by a BC player that is more expensive (like 100 tix or more) or to bypass the need to use BC to upload shirts. Can we get that changed, too many people copying shirts from clothing groups, shirt makers, and some security groups like Innovation Security? 
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I’d have to agree with this. I originally didn’t see an issue with it, but I’ve seen a couple occasions, like with China’s U shirt , that people just upload it and don’t have to purchase it.
I vote we do the opposite.
So you want no original content in the catalog?
So you want no original content in the catalog?[/quote]
Just because people aren’t BC doesn’t mean they’re bad at clothing design. I’d rather everyone be given the ability and ban people who just steal things.
So you want no original content in the catalog?[/quote]
Just because people aren’t BC doesn’t mean they’re bad at clothing design. I’d rather everyone be given the ability and ban people who just steal things.[/quote]
No one said that NBCers are bad at clothing. The point of this thread was to point out that people are uploading non-original content to these groups and getting the item for free. If you look at any NBC item creation groups, it is very difficult to find one item that is original. These groups are just discouraging NBCers from purchasing clothing, since it’s free just to copy it and upload it to a group.
I’m suggesting they just make clothing creation free to all.
If clothing creation was free (and it currently is due to these groups), what encourages anyone from purchasing clothing? If I didn’t have builders club, I’m sure I wouldn’t spend my limited amount of tickets on a shirt when I can easily take the texture of it and upload it for free.
I believe the real suggestion here is:
Don’t make clothing easy as shit to steal. Stravant said that it was “just another wall” on another thread if the -1 IDs were not viewable, then people could just steal the textures from in-game. That isn’t untrue – I could make an ImageLabel and set the ID to that of the shirt, so what I propose is to modify shirts/pants and use a special clothing format so clothing cannot be slapped onto a GUI or stolen from the site (if they stole a .clothe file, they wouldn’t be able to upload it because the site only takes .png, etc)
Clothing creation is a motivation for someone to buy BC. If they could just bypass it, they may not have a reason to buy BC, therefore, ROBLOX doesn’t make money.
Um, why can’t we make it, so only the creator of the asset can see the template, and make people that is not creator redict to error page or a page saying “you don’t have acess to this” but allow people to own the main shirt, to use the template in studio?
Because the user can just tell studio “Hey, I’m definitely this user!”, and then is able to access clothing in Studio. In addition, it would suck not being able to see clothing – period – in Studio. I believe the proper solution would be what I said in my previous post.
Get Sorcus in this discussion, he could make it happen.
What do I get in return?
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I’m not sure you understand what Stravant meant.
It doesn’t matter what you do, once it’s used as a piece of clothing that texture is going to be just sitting there in the video memory.
Now maybe not every 10-year-old knows how to rip that out of the video memory, but there’s bound to be some diehard clothing thief who will make a program to simplify the process.
And then you’re back to square one. Thousands of users still stealing clothing every day. In essence the only thing that’s changed is that you can’t possibly build a taller wall.
It’s like Stravant said, the “Work to make this happen : How well it solves the problem” ratio is too bad to be worth the work.
Also sorry if this generally comes off as a little hostile. Might just be me but reading back over this it sounds a little like a put-down.
I’m not sure you understand what Stravant meant.
It doesn’t matter what you do, once it’s used as a piece of clothing that texture is going to be just sitting there in the video memory.
Now maybe not every 10-year-old knows how to rip that out of the video memory, but there’s bound to be some diehard clothing thief who will make a program to simplify the process.
And then you’re back to square one. Thousands of users still stealing clothing every day. In essence the only thing that’s changed is that you can’t possibly build a taller wall.
It’s like Stravant said, the “Work to make this happen : How well it solves the problem” ratio is too bad to be worth the work.
Also sorry if this generally comes off as a little hostile. Might just be me but reading back over this it sounds a little like a put-down.[/quote]
If the “Work to make this happen : How well it solves the problem” ratio is too bad to make it happen, maybe they should improve the “Price of item : Effort put into stealing” ratio.
If clothing creation was free (and it currently is due to these groups), what encourages anyone from purchasing clothing? If I didn’t have builders club, I’m sure I wouldn’t spend my limited amount of tickets on a shirt when I can easily take the texture of it and upload it for free.[/quote]
Then, essentially, you’re kind of a scumbag. Stealing isn’t cool.
Unfortunately, this world we live in isn’t perfect. People are always going to steal, and when you make it easy and without reprimanding them, they’ll do it even more. Just drop the subject here – I’m sure you’re no idiot, and realize the issues that would come with free clothing uploading, and are only posting here for the sake of not being wrong. I don’t blame you for that – we’re all human, but enough is enough.
I’m not sure you understand what Stravant meant.
It doesn’t matter what you do, once it’s used as a piece of clothing that texture is going to be just sitting there in the video memory.
Now maybe not every 10-year-old knows how to rip that out of the video memory, but there’s bound to be some diehard clothing thief who will make a program to simplify the process.
And then you’re back to square one. Thousands of users still stealing clothing every day. In essence the only thing that’s changed is that you can’t possibly build a taller wall.
It’s like Stravant said, the “Work to make this happen : How well it solves the problem” ratio is too bad to be worth the work…[/quote]
I disagree that it’d be too bad of a ratio, even if some effort was required to steal clothing, the amount of people stealing clothing would be greatly reduced, while it can never be completely removed, it could be reduced to a few hundred or a couple thousand rather than tens of thousands.
How about a fee to upload shirts/ pants from a group, and no fee if you publish it and “connect it” to a group.
That way BC people can make shirts, NBC will have to get over a paywall, which undermines the “easiness” of stealing a product.
The only thing to consider is the pricing of the paywall; in order for this to work it has to be higher than the actual price of the shirt/ pants the player is trying to steal