Plugin automoderation false positiving over strings

[MagicLuau (Script)]

Basically if you search for a string with “loadstring” or anything related to printed stuff such as “backdoor” then the auto moderation will false positive and cause your plugin to be taken off publish.

Expected behavior

The plugin is only searching if a string in a script contain those characters and take action against those. The plugin doesn’t deserve a false positive.

Page URL: https://create.roblox.com/dashboard/creations/store/137434312991788/configure

[MagicLuau (Script)]

Where the issue?
When you remove the strings that could have been the issue the automoderation still thinks they are included in the plugin and doesn’t bring the plugin back to creator store for everyone.

Also assistant consider the plugin script as same as i do:

[MightyDantheman (Fate)]

This is unfortunately not a false positive.

Sorry, I misunderstood. However, I’ll still share my moderation experience:

Introducing an Improved Appeals Process

This feature was great for me when it originally released. My issues were sorted out in minutes, sometimes even seconds. But just this month, I had two assets that were moderated falsely and only one of them was approved. This is the first that was rejected: [Moderation] I’ll also say immediately that the AI moderation has flagged this asset every time since this update has come out. It has been successfully appealed each time before, but this time was different. The issue is that one of t…

You can read more here.

[MagicLuau (Script)]

Look the post i replyed, i removed the loadstring string.

First issue:
You’re plugin get moderated over strings, not actual require or loadstring() element itself.

Second:
If you’re removing those strings and publish again, the moderation will break and not publish it to everyone.

[MightyDantheman (Fate)]

Do you happen to have something with a lot of content? Also, did you remove “require” and “BackDoored” as well?

[MagicLuau (Script)]

Yea, also i wanted to see the assistant reply, its on my side.

[MightyDantheman (Fate)]

You should also link your moderation ID so that a staff member can review the actual case. Though I suppose they could possibly get it from the asset ID.

Have you tried appealing as well? If so, what was said if denied?

https://www.roblox.com/report-appeals#/

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Regardless, this was my feedback originally:

@MightyDantheman

So with these two examples, I’d simply like to suggest a few things:

1. Moderation should explain the exact reasoning that an asset was moderated, this isn’t a guessing game and most people aren’t malicious.
2. Continued appeals should be escalated to more knowledgeable people in certain cases. Not every appeal needs to be if it’s obvious, but it should be if the moderator in question doesn’t know for certain.
3. Large scripts/strings does not immediately mean obfuscation, a LuaVM, or malicious in any way.
4. Regarding obfuscation/loadstring/require, I don’t see why this shouldn’t be allowed. The reasons given are:
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   ㅤ1. “If code is obfuscated, creators cannot trust that the script is only doing what it should be doing.”
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   ㅤ2. “Assets that may look useful on the surface could load another ‘virus’ asset at runtime.”
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   These are understandable reasons for developers to be concerned, however that’s all it should be, a concern. I have no issue with there being warnings saying that a particular asset uses obfuscation or requires code externally, but it should be up to the developer to determine if they want to take that risk or not. Normal users already have to make those choices regarding anything installed on their devices. There’s already a permission system. This system can be used to allow/reject permissions regarding obfuscation, loadstring, external require usage, etc.

[MagicLuau (Script)]

Not my first time trying to appeal, the automoderation take over the appeal.

[MightyDantheman (Fate)]

Supposedly a human takes over, but it’s hard to tell sometimes. My second example only had my asset restored on the second appeal attempt, when it should’ve been appealed in the first. But I was fully expecting neither to approve.

I feel like what’s likely happening is that the moderation team is required to hit certain moderation review goals, and so they’ll blindly follow whatever the AI moderation has already decided, rather than actually seeing if it was valid or not. But that’s just my own personal theory.

[MagicLuau (Script)]

Its at a point roblox ai moderation is worse than the roblox studio ai assistant, they should definitelly upgrade.

[riddlemasta (riddle)]

@MagicLuau Sorry about that! Your plugin should be available now.

(Also, appeals are reviewed by humans not AI. If your appeal was approved quickly, it’s because a human moderator got to it quickly, not because of some AI auto-reject)