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itās completely free? there must be a catch, what if one of your staff logs into the custom bot and takes all the group funds?
They do not have access to do that. All they can do is request for the key to be made. They then give me the info for the rank key such as GroupId etcā¦ then I create the bot and host the server on my VPS.
Honestly iāve had problems where Rank Services cannot give you more than 1 rank service so I made my own and since I have some space left on my VPS, why not start a free rank service?
I think Iām going to use it if needed. Thanks!
Iāve been seeing way to many āranking botsā on the devforums recently, and why should we choose you over already existing products?
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@ZacBytes I think the simple answer there is literally not making a ranking bot the group owner.
Since itās completely free, itās pretty hard to trust.
People on this team cannot be fully trusted by your customers. To make yourself trustful, you should include reviews from customer that actually bought the product and are real, not bots. I also suggest reading what other people have said down below in the reply section.
Anyways I wish you the best of luck, stay safe and goodbye!
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Thanks for the feedback!!!
Just a side note, CampFire is another great Rank Service which I recommend you use. They actually have reviews unlike us and help big groups such as the Emerald Theatre.
There is no reason to pick us instead of other services. We all have our Pros and Cons.
So after joining the server and looking around at the module provided. I wouldnāt trust this product personally. Could it be legit? Yes. Problem I see right off the bat is the free service to utilize his bot service, which is in of itself suspicious. Everything is closed sourced (apart from the module, which doesnāt shed any light). So I really canāt tell you if this bot will or will not steal group funds if accidentally given access.
All Rank Services do this. If you really are suspicious, create your own with the help of @CAP7A1Nās tutorial.
It also uses NoBlox.JS which you CAN NOT steal funds with.
I keep seeing this concern about potential theft of group funds. As Iāve mentioned earlier, the simple answer here is not to make a rank bot the group owner and not hook up the bot to your own account. If the service provides bots, then actions will just get performed from that account.
Group funds theft is a non-problem.
As @colbert2677 said, donāt give the bot any other types of permissions, just ranking permission. Another way to keep safe,
DO NOT MAKE THE BOT THE HIGHEST ROLE! This will make sure Developer Roles etcā¦ can not be ranked to the lowest rank.
Why should we use your service instead of just following CAP7A1Nās tutorial?
So I really canāt tell you if this bot will or will not steal group funds if accidentally given access.
Iām more worried about individuals giving the bot full group permissions, probably on accident. Although yes the simple answer is to not make that mistake, mistakes can happen. If given permissions, the bot can withdraw funds.
@dibblydubblydoo
Our service is 24/7 and hosted on a VPS. This is better than Glitch hosting as Glitch is deleting projects that self ping themselves to keep 24/7.
@CylochDev
No one can change group role perms except the owner of the group. Correct me if iām mistaken.
Thatās not the fault of the service maintainer then, thatās your own for not being cautious in what permissions youāre giving the bot and risking incidents like that. You also have the option to just not use this service and write your own if you are this concerned about security, which is a better option though it can consume resources you may not be able to maintain.
Resources like this exist to cut down on development time, financial resources or abilities that you may not possess. They are courtesies, not necessities and nothing stops you from making your own. The noblox library includes samples of setting up your own server and there are other tutorials out there showing you how you can make this as well.
This issue canāt be pinned on OP at all. The only issue that can be is vulnerabilities or failure to account for other problems with the backend service (e.g. hosting platform).
Your best bet is to give people access to an open source bot. No trust given if you do it on your own.
This being said, Iām sure you are trustworthy, Iāve seen you around devforum a lot.
Iād be really weary of using third-party services to control group permissions. If youāre looking to do something similar, you should do it yourself.
The questions Iād like to ask are:
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The service is advertised as completely free?
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If so, how does the company make any money from this?
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What is the incentive to provide a completely free service? Surely this is nothing but a loss in revenue with no gain.
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Why should people trust your service?
Ideally, no one should trust a third-party service to manage permissions within a group or manage anything that performs automated tasks. If you want to do this yourself, thereās many tutorials and even open source projects that do this for you.
Itās best to spend $5 on a server and have full control of your code and your permissions than trust a third-party service that could, at any time, go down or abuse its powers.
If somethingās free, that means youāre the product. No company in the world, unless itās a non-profit (which are funded by donations for a charitable cause), will provide a service completely for free without any business gain. If a company does; itās a bad business model and will inherently fail.
Examples
Discord is free, but it also charges for Nitro and also sells your personal information for advertising. Google is free, but they collect your search history and use this to provide advertisements that companies pay for.