Recruiting all type of developers - Vision Development Studios

Collaboration Recruitment
#1

What is Vision Development Studios?
Vision Development Studios is not like other studios. It is separated with many teams which will be working on a game. Teams are created by people or by us with people who applied without a team, we find a game idea together and they make it. What do they win by joining our studio? We are teaching them how to work as a professional Roblox developer: organising, managing and monetising their game. All the games are under the name Vision Development Studios, but the game will act like it isnā€™t. The game description will have the developersā€™ username or twitter and we encourage the developers to write their name in the game somewhere visible.

Here is the full description of the studio for those who are interested:

Jobs
Since Iā€™ve just been giving a description of the studio Iā€™ll now tell you why this thread is in Collaboration, well we are recruiting all type of developers. What does all type of developers mean?

  • Scripters
  • Builders
  • Designers
  • GFX Makers
  • Music Makers
  • Managers*
  • and moreā€¦

*managers are mostly creative directors

If you havenā€™t read the full description: there is two type of developers, visionā€™s developer and teamā€™s developer. Visionā€™s developer will work with many teams and teamā€™s developer will focus on one game only.

The payment will depend on team(s) you are working with, but we will make sure the payment is fair for everyone. Some projects have already started, some are big projects some are smaller projects, but all of them are cool projects.

Staff job
We also need a lot of staff to help us manage the group since it already has four teams working on games.
So if you are interested contact me like it is said in the contact title.

We are not asking staff members to be active 24/7 but they should help when needed. We are planning on releasing a schedule when we get enough staff members.

The payment for staff wonā€™t start yet since no games are done, but the staff is taking 5% off every games, when the first game is released you will get a percentage off the 5%. This could become big, this couldnā€™t. Nobody knows yet!

Contact
Since everyone here are trusted developers, I wonā€™t ask you to apply on the application like everyone, if you are interested contact me on discord: Chichine#8315, join discord server in the description document, private message me here or contact a current staff member:
AmazingAbs ( @AmazingAbs )
lushmaxjhons
ValkaRed ( @ValkaRed )
Zyleak ( @Zyleak )
Diste( @Diste )
Gagou_Bloxxer (@Gagou_Bloxxer)

Thanks for reading and hope to see you there!

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#2

I havenā€™t these ever work, but good luck to you. The way I see it this is more likethatublishing studio that organizes people together rather than actually doing development. Even though you donā€™t claim any of the project you essentially are if its under your group, you are claiming it cause you are handling their money. Therefore I personally would have you sign a legal binding contract that you pay me in cash as reimbursement if you never pay me what I earn or something happens.

Bigger teams donā€™t mean faster and easier time making a game, its actually worse in my opinion to have so many people involved, and to only get 5 percent out of a project even if its a project done by only say 2 or 3 people, thatā€™s a rip off. People are better off running their own game development team because its less risk and more profitable.

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#3

Not trying to make bigger teams we know about that, bigger teams wonā€™t help. Right now the bigger team is only 4 developers but most of them never made a big project this is why we are here to help them making it successful by giving tips. The developers will get 95% of the money made from the game the 5% is only to show that we have helped them, it is nothing honestly. We are not trying to make a profit from the games, we are trying to showcase new developers and show them how developing big games looks like.

And we are not trying to get anything from the game since we ask them to show they are the creators and not us.

#4

More or less you just want to help new people learn how to be ā€œprofessionalā€ in roblox standards with a practicable concept game or prototype. Iā€™m still against you having any hands on the money unless you are signing a legal contract because the are developing it and not you. That does mean not publishing under your group in hands off.

I can see 5 percent for the staff who helps the team as a mentor and advisor as that is fair but doesnā€™t constitute ownership. There is ever possibility something happens and your payment promise is meaningless - Im from communities like Unity and Unreal, its better to be safe than sorry after you see so much people will do.

#5

We are actually publishing it under our group because teams could just get rid of us and tell that they did anything from the game. Letā€™s say a random visionā€™s developer makes a GFX for the game and asks 10% of the profits. (visionā€™s developers arenā€™t staff members), what if they kick the gfx maker from the group when the game is done? Having all games in our group is preventing people from scamming.

#6

Then write and have you and them sign a legal contract or make a verbal contract they can use if something happens. We are talking about potential payout with cash here, thatā€™s a big deal (DevEx).

#7

I understand your concern, but myself and the Staff have a good reputation, we would never want to jeopardise this and we would not ever dream of scamming any user within Roblox.

#8

You are handling money, scammer or not, reputation or not its protect them. Give them a verbal recording of you saying you agree to this payment and even possibly show proof you are speaking as the owner of the account.

I donā€™t care how legitimate this is.

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#9

Fact is they will need to trust us and that is our only point: we are trusted. Why? We arenā€™t a real company yet, we canā€™t ask people to sign legal contracts.

#10

You donā€™t need to be a real company, anyone can make a contract, anyone can make a verbal agreement so why are you refusing to get them something to use in their defense.

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#11

Let me put it this way, it is not uncommon for people who no matter how well you know them to turn up not paying, missing, or anything. You are a total stranger with no means of real life contact, only roblox through knowing your accounts can settle a dispute.

#12

Well, we could give contracts but I think that is really useless to do. We only put the game under our group to prevent visionā€™s developers to be scammed. What about all other groups developing? The money is hold by one and only developer and he/she could just kick others out and I donā€™t see people doing contracts. It is more safe for everyone to hold it under one group than to make different groups.

This will be my last reply to this since Iā€™ve talked about it to other staff members, and they donā€™t see to agree about making a contract since it is just loss of time and they also donā€™t see any other roblox groups making contracts.

#13

In this situation you arenā€™t even developing you claim, just telling people to do work. You are posting this here in a ā€œprofessionalā€ setting yet you refuse to do the most basic professional standard in the industry. Roblox can you evidence so no you are wrong it is not useless.

Contracts do happen here with most people who do out source work. I see this more as a risk and they have no fullback to protect themselves. You have full advantage of people who are doing the work for you.

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#14

We will think about that, but nothing bad will happen. This is all we can say. And again they are not making the work for us, they are making it for themselves, they agreed about vision groups owning the game because of possible scam between developers, and we are still helping people who tries to make their own game even if it isnā€™t under visionā€™s group. Our aim is to help making a professional Roblox game by creating a community who helps eachother. End.

#15

if you need a designer i am here bro.

#16

Do you have any examples where your guidance has produced a successful game before?

It sounds like youā€™re asking for a cut of peopleā€™s projects which is what an investor does. But this means you need to bring value worth surrendering part of their revenues. Meaning you should be able to back up the claim that you add value.

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#17

No game are done yet since we started this project 4 days ago, but one team is going really fast right now! :slight_smile:

This isnā€™t the point of our group actually, we are helping beginner developers to make their own game this is why we are asking for a 5% cut from the games, it is more managing than investing.

#18

team 10 roblox

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#19

Please do not make that joke since I donā€™t even know what is it. :joy:

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#20

Iā€™m still confused on the point of the group. You want 5% of the game earnings to ā€˜manageā€™. So far the only management you have described is finding people to work on a project. If thatā€™s the only purpose of the group, why donā€™t I just post in Collaboration and not pay you 5%? What other services can you provide?

Have you considered having project managers in the group that handle (in a meaningful way) the design cycle of the game? How about helping get testers for games? In the future I can see an argument for increased visibility of projects that are completed on the group but until then, I see little value for my 5%.

Things that would make me (and possible others) consider joining your group:

  • Formal contractual agreements
  • Project coordination
  • Advertising and publicity management
  • Cross-project workload ballancing
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