What if you need to give feedback on something, or have a below fifty character message that needs to be said?
Example: “IMO, change the GUI to make it more colorful.”
This is a perfectly fine feedback message, but it would get removed by the fifty character limit. I heavily doubt any post that is actually meaningful would be under 25 characters, but under 50 is a possibility.
If you want to keep the 50 character limit anyways, enforce it. Everyone just puts “50 character limit” anyways.
I think this is an overstatement. Though, if you see anyone trying to find ways around the rules, you should flag it. There are quite a few users on the forum now and the moderation team is not big enough to read everything, so they are bound to miss some posts. Flagging a post helps bringing it to their attention.
What makes you think they don’t enforce it? Putting “50 character limit” in your post is undesirable and we’ve been editing posts + sending feedback if people do this.
You have to have patience. There are many people who do the same thing. And there aren’t a lot of active people who can take them down quickly. It takes times. I would agree if you said, a number of days instead of hours. In none of my post, I didn’t mean to offended you, sorry if any came off rude.
Is the only place where “this is great” or “thanks” comments are allowed the #public:public-updates-announcements, or are posts like those restricted in this category too?
A lot of time devs ask for feedback on a new feature. Now, I can’t really say “this will help in my development, thanks” is important feedback, but it is “feedback” nonetheless. To be completely honest, hearts don’t express thankfulness enough (especially for a feature like the revamped toolbox). (Again this is all my opinion and this only applies to posts in #public:public-updates-announcements; thanks for understanding.)
That content is basically the equivalent of a Like, though. You should preferably only post when there is significant on-topic content to add (not for tagging your name onto a chain).
If you’re under the 50 character limit then its probably either not worth posting or way to vague. Now for the feedback thing for example if you’re just saying “Looks great!” that can also be told by putting a on the post or even saying “Thanks for the feedback ” you could also say that by putting a . So overall I am going to have to say the 50 character limit should stay as it also prevents spammers.
Short comments are literally not appropriate to place out, as it floods the topics with unnecessary posts(which can be instead done through either or PMs for extended discussions).
Also avoids spam or ‘too vague’ posts that contain little to completely out of context.
Personally, this is not a nuisance for me to deal with. It just takes time and patience to plan your post properly before eventually replying to the topic.
I think the 50 character limit should stay as well I have no problem with making a more constructive response. I think a very short response will likely not be informative enough to help someone with something.
50 characters is too long. I would suggest reducing it by half.
I once tried to ask the question “What plugin did you use to make those ropes?”, but couldn’t because its not 50 characters. This reply would be meaningful and not contain any filler.
Even arseny had trouble with the 50 count restriction. He had to have his post edited to remove all the filler he had to add.
I completely agree that one or two word responses like “cool” and “looks great” make for terrible posts (which is why we should keep the like button). But the 50 word count is just way too high, its leading to people having to add filler in their posts and that’s a problem.
Hello.
There is a point in the implementing of the 50 character requirement to the forum.
This addition ensures that posts are meaningful and contributes to keeping threads free of small-no effort posts. If you have something meaningful to contribute to a topic/thread you should have no worry with this limit.
With your example: “IMO, change the GUI to make it more colorful.”
This can easily be changed and become more like you put effort into it:
In my opinion, you can improve on the GUI and make it more appealing by making it more colorful. Here are some thoughts/ideas I ha e for this. Maybe make the buttons to the left, a BLANK kind of color, and the background on the right a BLANK color, other then that really good job!
I agree completely when this is applied to scripting support threads and such. I have found myself just wanting to “tag” my name on (to a thread I have very little to offer) so I have had to scrap some posts.
But some threads in #public:public-updates-announcements actually ask for your opinions in the comments. They don’t want to see just a heart, they want to see the love the feature gets and if their time was worth it. Here is such a post:
And, believe it or not, the first comment was posted by you and it stated:
Now I’m not posting this to say “HA you are a hypocrite” but to show, in some situations, these comments are really needed and appreciated by our hard working engineers. I feel it warmed the developers’ hearts to read the comment you gave (and all the others for that matter) as it shows their hard labour wasn’t taken for granted.
(Again, this post is an honest argument against the 50 char limit in #public:public-updates-announcements and NOT meant to insult @buildthomas or anyone else for that matter. Please do not take the arguments personally. Thank you.)
I apologize for the lackluster example, but there are better uses for removing the limit. When someone is asking for feedback on a feature ( and you have nothing more to give ), it can be difficult to find a space-waster to tack on to make it 50 characters. A lot of the time the mods bypass the limit to post things they need to post, so why can’t we?
The context being that I was the person who requested a related feature to that. I wanted to let them know that this now solves my need (see the likes on that post, the person who responded to my feature request also liked that post). This note has a clear functional purpose and isn’t just an into-the-void “wow this is great thanks”.
I was also personally tagged by two Developer Relations members to that thread when they posted it so I could comment, because they know I took interest in the release of that feature.
This is not the case for the hundreds of other developers that post similar messages to this. These are random notes that could have just as easily been likes.
Context is important. I put Likes on new features I like that I didn’t suggest myself or was involved in somehow.
Again, just restating this, I do not mean to attack you personally; the post is meant to be just a fair argument. Sorry.
My bad. The post was before my DevForum days so I didn’t see it. Also, I couldn’t have known about you being tagged, but I apologize for that.
For me personally, if I were a developer, I would prefer positive comments rather than “hearts”. For me, having real words to put to an individual means so much more than profile pics under a heart icon.
Does this mean short “thank you” posts in the #public:public-updates-announcements category are able to be taken down too?