Hello, my name is Paul, I would like to make this topic because I noticed people should give a little bit of respect to other DevForum users.
My Experience
Like my experience for instance, I posted a topic here in the DevForum concerning about if people use grammar when posting, I got posts about me saying ‘Don’t judge others by using grammar, when your post has even grammar errors.’ or ‘Use grammar before posting about grammar.’ Well, I was a little bit insulted and got the moderators to delete the topic, and I was just asking if it’s recommendable to use grammar when posting in the DevForum.
Main Point
We should give each other some respect. Even though your a Top-Contributor or a Regular, give some respect to other DevForum users because you don’t know how they would feel and some maybe even be sensitive.
I really encourage everybody to respect each other, and to be honest, don’t post negative things concerning the topic, if you see the user has mistakes, don’t post your own judgement in his topic.
Notice
This is not about the grammar topic, it’s about respecting others in the DevForum.
I think the main reason for this is that it’s pretty easy to accidentally seem aggressive when replying on the devforum, since you can’t really convey emotion into a paragraph without stating the emotion inside of it. Sometimes on the forums, when someone gives out orders, it seems aggressive, but in real life it’ll probably be less aggressive than on the forums.
Hope I helped! If I made any mistakes, please tell me.
Everyone deserves respect, I completely agree with that, and you did the right thing contacting staff to help resolve the issue.
However keep in mind, this is still a public forum and we do have the right to show we like / dislike something, and while this should always be done respectfully, it may sometimes not seem so due to strong passions for a particular idea.
In the DevForum, we are all entitled to our own opinions. Opinions must be conducted respectfully. This is laid out in the rules.
But on some occasions, I’ve seen this taken to frankly stupid proportions. In the Support sections especially, somebody could build or design something totally ugly and in need of dire improvement and you’d see pages of mindless pandering. “This is great, but you could change this slightly…” for example. Sugarcoating.
In the Support sections, there is a clear lack of people willing to make any meaningful comments because they don’t want to appear “too rude.” I’ve even been called “rude” to my face for what is essentially me speaking my mind – I don’t do it condescendingly, I always do it with a token of how somebody can improve and change, but just because “I give this a 10/10” is the norm nowadays, that’s what people expect. It’s honestly sad.
Insulting people for having bad grammar? No.
Speaking your mind with a modicum of respect? That’s fine.
%100 agree with you, i also sometimes get that feeling, and i also don’t think the ones that said that in your topic, didn’t understand, they must have understood correctly.
I will also try to do that.
Good job on showing this to others, this is basically what happens, for some reason you discovered it, i also think Top-Contributors or even a Regular, may act like that.
Your post didn’t seem like that? It was more like a jab at those who aren’t fluent English speakers. Honestly, I felt attacked by it because I’m not a native English speaker. My English is quite understandable but I know a lot of people who barely speak it and use this forum to connect with others. Being insulted cus people were telling you to back off (some harsh words rn) show that you need to get some thicker skin before you decide to suggest rules that could exclude a bigger part of the forum. This post now feel like a pity party post since people who didn’t read the original topic can’t go back to it and read it.
TL;DR: Don’t feel insulted by people “attacking you” cus you were trying to suggest rules that exclude a bigger part of the forum from the site. Instead of looking for pity, look into respecting those who aren’t as fluent as you are.
Thank you for your advice, though my main point is about Respecting each other in the DevForum. I have been over that issue, but thanks again for the advice.
I agree with you 100%, because just 1 week ago i got into a fight with another DevForum member because all i said was that i cant build you a building so i can be hired. Respect shoule be given to everyone on the DevForum, no matter how much you hate them or love them. Even if someone is not using grammar on their posts, it doesnt mean that you have to go there and target him for not using grammar. There are allot of people in the world who dont use grammar while making something, Its just that, thats their weakness. The main thing is that respect should be given to everyone, the older people or the younger. Everyone should be equal for us.
Respect is crucial to having constructive debate.
I have seen a fair share of snobbieness on my time here and some of this (in my own opinion) is down to simply having developing teenagers and young adults on here but another reason, caused indirectly, is the role scheme which gives higher status to certain members. This was especially bad when it was “Members” and “New Members”.
That’s my own take on what’s causing it and I look forward to hearing what others have to say.
I do want to touch on what you said about your post. Yes it’s not nice to be insulted to any degree by members of the community if that can be considered insulting but it would be wise to use grammer on a post about it just so your message doesn’t come across contradictory.
Honestly, if I understand your point well enough, I don’t think that grammar should necessarily be too much of an issue, but it depends on the situation.
If you’re posting your portfolio, I expect a higher degree of professionalism, and I think that’s where I would point out grammar errors (preferably by messaging the original poster instead of replying). When it comes to other situations, however, I don’t think you need to be that strict on people.
I think the bottom line is that if you spot an error, you shouldn’t hesitate to reach out to the person via DMs to correct the mistake. But making a reply is often not really the best way and might come off as rude.
I agree with you, there should be respect with the grammar, my grammar is bad, but I deserve respect too, time ago, someone just mentioned my grammar that it was bad, he was trying to force me to be in his side of a discussion with another guy, and he mentioned to the other guy “I agree with you. And let’s mention that his grammar is bad”, something off topic from a discussion, and I really hate those people who are mentioning you grammar to defend themselves, insult, etc. And yes, I’m sensitive.