Roblox wiki layout

Not sure if this is the right place to suggest changes to the roblox wiki but here I go.

This is how the roblox wiki page of an instance/service used to look like:

This is how most of the pages look now:

The new layout is terrible and very hard to read through. Its a mess.
Many people agree with me too:
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=143004363

I suggest changing the layouts of instance/service pages back to what they were before.
However if you want to change it, this could be how to do it better:

(The layout on .NET documentation pages is awesome.)

I don’t agree with you, at all. It’s neither a mess or hard to read through. If anything it’s a huge improvement over what the layout used to be. Everything is neatly separated and you can tell what each member does at a glance, without having to go to the page or muck around with the infernal tabs that the old layout used to have.

This is the issue with ROBLOX, the fact that people, given the chance, would rather stand still than progress to different styles as a product evolves. This is seen time and time again on ROBLOX, especially after the introduction of some features, such as paid access and the new layout. Besides, they won’t change it back. Considering how the main website has also had a ‘redesign’ recently, they’re not going to fall back to something which looks terrible in comparison.

I, personally, can load a page and instantly find what I’m looking for. Which is why I really can’t see how users can be ‘losing their place’ and how the ‘text is too small’, or whatever people generally said on that thread, which consisted of one page of users out of… 60 million?

Edit:
I’d also like to point out that four months ago there was a thread asking RbxDev what they wanted from the Wiki. Shortly after the first few replies, they threw up a sandbox version to get all user feedback and to adapt it on the fly, depending on what users wanted. Generally, the replies were positive. The only person who had severe problems with the direction was Mark.

So how is it, four months later, you lot have gone from “raving” about it (something which you poured ideas into, and they were added), to this? Urist, the main person liaising with us, even provided the source of everything they’d done, allowing users to make their own changes to the theme, etc. Nobody submitted any changes to the provided Github, and people thought things looked fine. Other than a few disagreements with fonts, and one or two people having issues with usability.

I’m sorry if my tone is acidic, and I’m sorry for a word wall, but people don’t cease to amaze me.

I find it very hard to read. Maybe it’s just because I been reading the wiki for a very long time. I’m not sure, but anyway I do like the older version better.

I agree because so much white is very overwhelming - I’m not sure where I should be looking at all and I have to go way out of my way to find where I should start reading. On the old layout reading was very intuitive: there were bright colorful boxes with very clear titles and contents. On this one, not so much.

I’m not the best at explaining it. It’s just hard to read, you know? And having the names of the members appear on the second column instead of the first doesn’t help at all.

Also who’s idea was it to replace every object parameter with “Instance”? That’s terrible. What should Part0 be? An Instance? No, a BasePart. It’s very misleading.

Its just a word wall

Personally I don’t like it. It feels like a mess, nothing is aligned nicely, everything feels floaty, there’s no obvious division in content aside from the property separators. I like having something that my eye can get be guided by, like a table.

The old layout isn’t perfect either, it looks a tad dated and I’m not sure about those tabs, but I really liked having the overview of all the properties in a neat little side bar that fit on my screen.

.Net documentation pages are pretty nice, I could live with something similar to that. Oooh, actually what would be awesome: .Net doc pages, but replace the sidebar with an overview of all the properties/events/methods for the object kind of like the old page, clicking an item on the side bar would then scroll you down to it.

I personally think it’s fine.

It’s easy to find information about the child members/properties, the method’s parameters and the descriptions about what they’re for or what they do without having to go to another page.

As for alignment, I don’t know how you could not see that it’s a table and it’s aligned nicely.

I do agree with the whitespace though, it’s a bit to white - besides that, I think it’s an improvement.

[quote] I personally think it’s fine.

It’s easy to find information about the child members/properties, the method’s parameters and the descriptions about what they’re for or what they do without having to go to another page.

As for alignment, I don’t know how you could not see that it’s a table and it’s aligned nicely.

I do agree with the whitespace though, it’s a bit to white - besides that, I think it’s an improvement. [/quote]

Well it isn’t as hideous as It could be, but adding some sort of colors or even boxes around the descriptions/names of the methods like on the MSDN doc. pages would be really neat

I think the new wiki pages would look better if each second row of the table had a slightly darker background :stuck_out_tongue:

While I like the new layout I also didn’t mind the old one. But the reason why I probably prefer the old one is because, I got used to it due to using the Wiki a lot more back then than I do now.