In the profile page the default idle pose should be the normal idle pose. But the default idle pose right now is the rhtro idle pose.
Also this bug affects old bundle images.
Expected behavior
Profile:
When no animation package is selected, the default pose is expected to be like Character 1.
(Character 1)
(Character 2)
Bundles:
The character pose in the bundle images should be as in screenshot 1.
I think this is intended behaviour, some of the older R15 animations are being replaced with Rthro animations like the running animation
This is not the expected behavior. There has been no announcement of such an update anywhere. Nevertheless, if there were such an update, I think they would add an option to return to the normal idle pose.
This is wrong information. You can still use regular R15 animations.
Hello @music_man1996 i think you are interested in website bugs. it’s been 24 days, is there any update?
The running, walking and swimming animations have been replaced with their rthro counterparts since the release of rthro. (doing that was kinda redundant though since the rthro animation pack is already its own bundle)
No, if there is no ‘rhtro idle’ in a bundle package, it must have a default animation instead of rhtro pose. (Thumbnail)
There are no rhtro animations inside the old bundles.
that was in 2018 when they replaced the running walking and swimming animations
They replaced the default ‘action pose’ to the new rthro idle animation. Unfortunately this is intended behavior
Can you prove that this is an update? Was it announced anywhere or did a staff member confirm it?
This was an under-the-hood internal change as are most changes on this platform. Its not significant enough to make an announcement for
I think this is an important update. With this update, all blocky characters profile poses became terrible. It could be as you said, but there should be an option to return to ‘action pose’. The thumbnail was broken and incompatible in the old bundles. Hopefully, a staff will respond here and clear up this uncertainty.
They have yet to respond, shocker(!) I’m gonna bump this because the new pose is still absolutely disgusting to look at, even more so when compared with the original pose! 
I thought we were supposed to be able to freely choose and create our own avatars?? - rather than having perfectly good + beloved features ripped out, and replaced with more rthro mess.
Roblox, PLEASE revert this or, at the very least, give us the option to choose between the two of them!!
i would probably actually use r15 if they fix the pose
bumping since the new pose is still disgusting
come on roblox… do the right thing… PLEASE!!! THE NEW POSE IS TERRIBLE!!
Bump. Roblox promotes imagination and creativity yet limits it at the same time. Action pose should be the default and the Rthro pose should be selected when the Rthro idle is selected.
If they were to bring back the old pose I would actually use R15 occasionally.
I believe this change was done intentionally.
Here is the script responsible for rendering these bodyshots internally from 2021. (You cannot get anything above 2021 :/)
-- Avatar_R15_Action v1.1.1
-- For R6, this generates the normal with/without gear pose. For R15 it positions their body in an action pose.
local baseUrl, characterAppearanceUrl, fileExtension, x, y = ...
local ThumbnailGenerator = game:GetService("ThumbnailGenerator")
ThumbnailGenerator:AddProfilingCheckpoint("ThumbnailScriptStarted")
pcall(function() game:GetService("ContentProvider"):SetBaseUrl(baseUrl) end)
game:GetService("ScriptContext").ScriptsDisabled = true
local player = game:GetService("Players"):CreateLocalPlayer(0)
player.CharacterAppearance = characterAppearanceUrl
player:LoadCharacterBlocking()
ThumbnailGenerator:AddProfilingCheckpoint("PlayerCharacterLoaded")
local poseAnimationId = "http://www.roblox.com/asset/?id=532421348"
local function getJointBetween(part0, part1)
for _, obj in pairs(part1:GetChildren()) do
if obj:IsA("Motor6D") and obj.Part0 == part0 then
return obj
end
end
end
local function applyKeyframe(character, poseKeyframe)
local function recurApplyPoses(parentPose, poseObject)
if parentPose then
local joint = getJointBetween(character[parentPose.Name], character[poseObject.Name])
if joint and poseObject.Weight ~= 0 then
joint.C1 = poseObject.CFrame:inverse() + joint.C1.p
end
end
for _, subPose in pairs(poseObject:GetSubPoses()) do
recurApplyPoses(poseObject, subPose)
end
end
for _, poseObj in pairs(poseKeyframe:GetPoses()) do
recurApplyPoses(nil, poseObj)
end
end
local function applyR15Pose(character)
local poseKeyframSequence = game:GetService("KeyframeSequenceProvider"):GetKeyframeSequence(poseAnimationId)
local poseKeyframe = poseKeyframSequence:GetKeyframes()[1]
applyKeyframe(character, poseKeyframe)
end
local function findAttachmentsRecur(parent, resultTable, returnDictionary)
for _, obj in pairs(parent:GetChildren()) do
if obj:IsA("Attachment") then
if returnDictionary then
resultTable[obj.Name] = obj
else
resultTable[#resultTable + 1] = obj
end
elseif not obj:IsA("Tool") and not obj:IsA("Accoutrement") then -- Leave out tools and accoutrements in the character
findAttachmentsRecur(obj, resultTable, returnDictionary)
end
end
end
local function findAttachmentsInTool(tool)
local attachments = {}
findAttachmentsRecur(tool, attachments, false)
return attachments
end
local function findAttachmentsInCharacter(character)
local attachments = {}
findAttachmentsRecur(character, attachments, true)
return attachments
end
local function weldAttachments(attach1, attach2)
local weld = Instance.new("Weld")
weld.Part0 = attach1.Parent
weld.Part1 = attach2.Parent
weld.C0 = attach1.CFrame
weld.C1 = attach2.CFrame
weld.Parent = attach1.Parent
return weld
end
local function findFirstMatchingAttachment(model, name)
for _, child in pairs(model:GetChildren()) do
if child:IsA("Attachment") and child.Name == name then
return child
elseif not child:IsA("Accoutrement") and not child:IsA("Tool") then
local foundAttachment = findFirstMatchingAttachment(child, name)
if foundAttachment then
return foundAttachment
end
end
end
end
local function doR15ToolPose(character, humanoid, tool)
local characterAttachments = findAttachmentsInCharacter(character)
local toolAttachments = findAttachmentsInTool(tool)
local foundAttachments = false
-- If matching attachments exist in the gear then weld them and do the "action" R15 pose.
-- Otherwise keep the R15 in the T-Pose position and just raise the arm.
for _, attachment in pairs(toolAttachments) do
local matchingAttachment = characterAttachments[attachment.Name]
if matchingAttachment then
foundAttachments = true
weldAttachments(matchingAttachment, attachment)
end
end
if foundAttachments then
tool.Parent = character
applyR15Pose(character)
local toolPose = tool:FindFirstChild("ThumbnailPose")
if toolPose and toolPose:IsA("Keyframe") then
applyKeyframe(character, toolPose)
end
else
tool.Parent = nil
local rightShoulderJoint = getJointBetween(character.UpperTorso, character.RightUpperArm)
if rightShoulderJoint then
rightShoulderJoint.C1 = rightShoulderJoint.C1 * CFrame.new(0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, -1, 0, 1, 0):inverse()
end
if tool:FindFirstChild("Handle") then
local attachment = findFirstMatchingAttachment(character, "RightGripAttachment")
if attachment then
tool.Handle.CFrame = attachment.Parent.CFrame * attachment.CFrame * tool.Grip:inverse()
end
end
humanoid:EquipTool(tool)
end
end
local character = player.Character
if character then
local tool = character:FindFirstChildOfClass("Tool")
local humanoid = character:FindFirstChildOfClass("Humanoid")
local animateScript = character:FindFirstChild("Animate")
if animateScript then
local equippedPoseValue = animateScript:FindFirstChild("Pose") or animateScript:FindFirstChild("pose")
if equippedPoseValue then
local poseAnim = equippedPoseValue:FindFirstChildOfClass("Animation")
if poseAnim then
poseAnimationId = poseAnim.AnimationId
end
end
end
if humanoid then
if humanoid.RigType == Enum.HumanoidRigType.R6 then
if tool then
character.Torso["Right Shoulder"].CurrentAngle = math.rad(90)
end
elseif humanoid.RigType == Enum.HumanoidRigType.R15 then
if tool then
doR15ToolPose(character, humanoid, tool)
else
applyR15Pose(character)
end
end
end
end
local result, requestedUrls = ThumbnailGenerator:Click(fileExtension, x, y, --[[hideSky = ]] true)
ThumbnailGenerator:AddProfilingCheckpoint("ThumbnailGenerated")
return result, requestedUrls
The poseAnimationId variable was originally set to the ActionPose and does not change unless you have an animation package equipped with a pose assigned to it.
Someone definitely changed that variable because running this code in current day studio on someone without any animation packages equipped still shows the old pose.
