I agree with this, but I think that a 1 year ban is excessive. Only very serious offenses should cause a punishment that harsh. A 6 month ban would likely be enough to give the user time to change their behavior.
The rationale I have in mind is that this “ban” would be given to users who are in their 13-18s and haven’t fully finished developing mentally yet time to grow and become mature enough to use the forum. 6 months or a year makes a big difference in these younger age ranges. A month or a few weeks is not long enough to make a significant personality difference.
To be honest if all someone is going to do is repeatedly post off topic and not contribute anything meaningful, despite warnings, they don’t deserve to use the devforum. And frankly a 2 week ban wouldn’t do anything.
If someone is a better person and more ready to contribute in a year then that’s better then just having to make a new account.
Fully agree on this topic. Another major issue which I see today is that many members personally attack other developers or target other developers’ games. I’d like to see the same system in place for these kinds of people in addition to the people who generally post things that are off topic.
These threads are often framed in an attempt to make it seem like a developer-related post but are really just blatant forms of bullying.
A few I have seen in the past are “What are some of the worst game fails on Roblox?”, and “Why do you think (this game) failed?” These are almost always personal opinions and ways for players to trash games they dislike and their developers, and are often explained with “It would help me understand how games work better if I knew why this happened”. These people know exactly what they are doing when they create a post like that and it’s frustrating for both people who use the devforum seriously and the developers who are being attacked.
I definitely feel that this suggestion mixed with your other suggestion about restricting the devforum more to prevent these types of people from posting to begin with would help the devforum tremendously.
I can not agree more. I was surprised when I saw your response to that disgraceful Among Us post, yet I could not help but think about being in your shoes myself having to deal with irrelevant and disturbingly stupid topics which seem to be increasing in commonality every day.
It is beyond frustrating to see the same people treat this forum as a joke just to see them flagged and back the next day. I can not believe that today (this has to be a new record on the scale of ridiculous posts), I saw a post that was a literal “speedrun to get flagged”. I can understand why Roblox wants to make the forum open in the long term, and in many ways, I agree, but the people who repeatedly break rules have lost their privilege and do not deserve to participate in this forum. I think that they should be grateful that so many doors have been opened to them which was not opened to those who had to struggle a lot more to prove that they are willing to be upstanding members of the community.
Many members seem to be under the impression that the worst thing that could happen to them is getting flagged and possibly a suspension. They don’t seem to believe that a common action of breaking the rules would result in anything serious, so they don’t even make the effort to hold back the idiotic urge to troll and not care about the rules. This is why I agree that these people need to know – and I mean, seriously, they need to know that they will not have the option to participate in this forum if they can not be mature members.
It frustrates me to think about this, but at this point, I see the forum as so damaged that it can never really be the same as it was before. The overwhelming amount of off-topic posts, low-quality posts, and other posts that provide very little to no value that did not get unlisted will probably make it more difficult to find more informative posts. Things are already out of hand, and I would prefer that something is done now before it gets worse.
It is not at all fair to say that this is just a forum or to argue why anyone should care so much about this forum. This forum represents the community and professionalism of the Roblox platform for development, so its value is not to be underestimated.
Full support. Low quality contributions to this forum have completely undermined its utility.
I support this, people seem to think just because it has forum in the name it’s a replacement for the original forum.
100% agree. Currently #development-discussion is at an all time low in average quality. I doubt that there’s that many new users coming in that fast that it would create so many bad posts in there.
If you post an offtopic post anywhere else, you’d get a strike, maybe a warn the first time. With the amount of subpar quality posts coming in, it doesn’t feel like people are truly getting the message, and I’d imagine it’s likely because there’s zero proper punishment for posting offtopic posts in #development-discussion
I really support this, I’m really tired of seeing lazy grammar-less topics in #development-discussion mostly from new members who likely haven’t read the rules yet. Like today there were a few shit-posts today in #development-discussion. A three-strike system would be nice, I totally agree with this.
This would be great if it happened. I would much rather have a forum where I cannot post but can read quality posts than have to deal with whatever state the forum is in right now. Before automatic approval, I spent a lot of time reading useful/interesting posts by top devs and now that’s either no longer possible or very difficult. At this point you have to sift through so much junk to find anything of quality that its not worth coming back here.
I very much agree with this. Ive seen an increase in very suspicious activity from some users using DevForum for unprofessional or dumb topics/replies.
Not too sure about the locking #development-discussion to members. At least, bot until regular FINALLY is a thing. And once its all set, I can hope that it can at least fix some issues regarding rude behavior, poor professionalisms, and most of all, same similar copies of the same topic being asked over and over again. Personally, I look forward to reasonable topics, not ones that ask how I started development, etc that makes it sound like they just want it for some likes or something.
edit: was kinda in a rush at the time, grammar fixes
This might be a controversial idea, but why not tie in the punishments with the Roblox platform directly in extreme cases? If someone comes here just to troll or has malicious intent then suspend their account across all of Roblox’s services, not just the forums. The accounts are linked anyways, might as well use it for this.
This might be more effective since some users might have this kinda mindset; “I’ll mess around on the forums a bit, not like it’ll do much if they ban me.”
I fully agree. Something needs to be done. Off topic topics tend to be made by obviously underage users again and again in #development-discussion. I mentioned this in another topic but I might as well mention it again here.
Some people in the replies have been talking about a #development-discussion ban. A ban on the whole forum would be better than just a #development-discussion ban, I’ve already seen some people trashing up #forum-feedback.
I am glad that within only a few hours hundreds of hearts are being put on this post so it may get more attention.
That recent Among Us post? Literally a shitpost from a Discord general server to the forums! I believe @railworks2 is right that we cannot really turn around from where we are at. We have been going south for way too long and we are at the point we simply cannot make a return to a peaceful forum instead of an offtopic cesspool and warzone of trash threads. If some of you remember the threads again about some sort of Among Us roleplay (not about, but was a roleplay or something) or something about gaining attractions to each other during development, like who in their right minds think that is acceptable??!!!
I don’t even know where more and more of these silly users are coming from. Is false word going around about how the Devforum is what a new Roblox forum? Because obviously that’s what it seems like; so many uneducated or/and underage users are coming here to let out the stupidest of thoughts. Whatever punishments you guys come up with like a 1 year ban as @buildthomas suggested is ay-okay with me because I’m sick and tired of stupid posts clogging DD.
A quicker punishment to these off topic spammers would be very very very very very very very very very very very very very nice and DD would actually be useful to me, and really everyone responding to this thread and many others off it.
This really needs to be put into effect on the DevForum, I have seen countless topics today that went extremely off-topic and are turning the DevForum into a social media platform instead of a development resource.
"Lost some braincells, thanks for that!", which was the lock message on the Among Us post perfectly describes the way professional developers feel when they see a topic that does not belong on the DevForum.
The best thing to do right now is to keep flagging until these people realize they can go to third party platforms like Discord to do their off-topic discussions.
Pretty sure there will be alot of people that will false flag others
Not exactly sure why’d someone would do that?
They’d be hurting themselves as malicious flagging grants you a suspension and a strike.
I mean they can make an alt any time
I personally haven’t seen posts being maliciously hidden, also there is no point in someone alting since they would have to read on the alt to the point of obtaining membership. Flag weights are also disabled on the devforum, and it absolutely takes more than 2 flags, one from two different TL1 users, to hide a post. This is a non-issue and is not relevant to the topic at hand.