A new Regular system for Members

[cheekybones579]

I am usually on the DevForum a lot now. I almost post every day about something. I am also finding a lot of bugs in games and Roblox studio that I am not allowed to address. Since I am not a regular, #bug-reports, #platform-feedback, and others are not available. I would like to propose a new regular system for members, the same one. It was fine, nothing was wrong with it. So we should bring it back.

If Roblox is able to address this issue, it would improve my experience using the forum because I and many others will be able to post on other regular-only channels.

Thank you,
Cheekybones

[incapaz]

How would it work, as in, what requirements would be taken into account because there was supposed to be a replacement for post approval so that users could be promoted. Regular means you are trusted with more posting permissions, in #bug-reports and #feature-requests.

[cheekybones579]

Maybe how many spam replies or topics and warnings, and how many solutions, likes, and good topics would decrease/ increase how likely you are to get in.

[incapaz]

But that still does not show that you are trusted with #bug-reports and #feature-requests permissions. Also solutions and likes are not good statistics and will only encourage farming statistics just for the sake of farming them. All that can really be said is “wait for the new thing” :\

[Blackmole111]

@cheekybones579

It was fine, nothing was wrong with it.

Uh… not really. The previous system (manual post approval) failed and that’s why it was discontinued. Every topic and every reply had to be manually approved by someone before being “released to the wild”. We’re talking about real people sitting behind a computer reading topics and having to decide whether or not they should be posted. If you had enough approved topics, you could be promoted to a regular.

That’s fine in a small community, but the dev community has been growing much quicker than expected. You can’t go through each and every post manually anymore. Simply said, demand was higher than capacity.

Managing a community this large isn’t an easy task. The old system was replaced for a reason and they aren’t just going to put it back out of the blue. A new, thoroughly designed system needs to be developed instead. It should take all events (or as many as possible) into account, which the old post approval definitely did not. I’m a member too, I know that it can be restrictive, and I know it’s unfair that we can’t just level up. You need to feel some sort of empathy towards the people managing the forum and understand that not everything – especially a system which influences the overall functioning of the forum – can be accomplished easily.

In summary: The old system flopped because it was slow, inefficient, put unnecessary tension on people who were doing it, and unfit for a community which is growing day by day.

[LocalWE]

@cheekybones579

the same one. It was fine, nothing was wrong with it. So we should bring it back.

The reason the old system was removed was because anyone who were on Post Approval were stressed out by the amount of posts. If you have a bug report, DM @DevEngagementTeam. I got this post by doing this method, but it takes longer than Post Approval.

@cheekybones579

If Roblox is able to address this issue

Well they are currently testing something called the Bug Report wizard

Announcing the Bug Report Wizard Beta

Hello developers! A big priority for the Developer Relations team this year is improving the bug reporting process and experience for both developers and Roblox engineers. Behind the scenes, we have been overhauling how we triage, prioritize, and respond to bug reports. Our goal is to get reports to the right people sooner, better identify high priority issues, and, most importantly, keep the community informed. Today, we are launching the next piece of this puzzle: The Bug Report WizardBETA.…

[LucasTutoriaisSaimo]

@Blackmole111

That’s fine in a small community, but the dev community has been growing much quicker than expected. You can’t go through each and every post manually anymore. Simply said, demand was higher than capacity.

Yep. 100%.

This is actually REALLY visible when you go to a popular module or resource. Let’s say you go and see datastore2, there’s 1600 replies… ok, then you go back to 500 replies or so, and you see stuff from July, 2020 or so. Same thing with ProfileService, any big resource for that matter.

(I overshot with 500 replies, however look at this:

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That’s on 500 replies. 2019. 2020 seems to have been a big year for people joining Roblox development.

[Mithrandir6440]

I literally came here to post about this, but you beat me to it.

I too have several bugs that need fixing in RSudio, but I can’t post about them. It’s not cool… I would really like to be able to become a regular for that reason alone.

I would love for the Roblox team to open this back up again, even if we needed a new set of rules for members to become regulars.

Maybe you would have to file a request to the developer relations team to become a regular?..

[Avallachi]

It has now been a little longer than 6 months since Post Approval was removed and Member → Regular promotions came to a stop.

I am among many who wishes to get more perks and feel more included within the forum after a long time of consistent contribution.

My stats per now are 1.1k+ likes received, 3.5k+ profile visits, 9 days+ read time (216+ hours), 32.4k+ posts read, 90+ solutions and 900+ days visited (365+ days in a row).

Please do update the requirements and promote the members who deserve it.

[megapaul0917]

@Avallachi

I am among many who wishes to get more perks and feel more included within the forum

Being a Member of the forum already makes you included in the Developer Forum, even if you’re a Member you could still make consistent contributions, without the rank of ‘Regular’ and being in the rank of ‘Regular’ shows you are trusted with Developer Forum posting permissions around certain categories.

@Avallachi

My stats per now are 1.1k+ likes received, 3.5k+ profile visits, 9 days+ read time (216+ hours), 32.4k+ posts read, 90+ solutions and 900+ days visited (365+ days in a row).

A Member’s stats does not make one a Regular of the Developer Forum, and remember, to be a Regular, you have

@Roblox

To level up to Regular , you need to make sure you (1) use to the forum appropriately according to our community rules and guidelines, (2) have made a few posts on the forum, (3) visited the forum for several weeks and (4) you need to pass through post approval several times successfully. You will be automatically promoted to Regular once you meet the criteria and have a clean moderation history.

One’s stats does not make one a Regular, and it never had been.

@Avallachi

Please do update the requirements and promote the members who deserve it.

Why are you so eager to be promoted to be a ‘Regular’ there’s nothing really special about it, sure you could access #lounge, though there’s not really special things there, and most of us prefer other communications platforms when communicating with each other rather than using the forum to do it. I’ll be honest, it’s better if #lounge could just be removed.

[Avallachi]

@megapaul0917

Being a Member of the forum already makes you included in the Developer Forum

I mentioned that I among others wanted to feel more included within the forum, and that includes being shown appreciation towards by being awarded a promotion for one’s dedication.

@megapaul0917

One’s stats does not make one a Regular, and it never had been.

There is literally a direct connection between users’ stats and the post you linked. I am not sure what you are talking about.

[megapaul0917]

@Avallachi

includes being shown appreciation towards by being awarded a promotion for one’s dedication.

I’ll ask you back, why do you need appreciation despite the fact this is just a Developer Forum, and you shouldn’t even expect something… Isn’t your dedication to the forum enough for your to be already apart of it? You don’t need appreciation to be apart of something… Honestly, you shouldn’t even expect anything from the Developer Forum but you should just focus on contributing to fellow members… despite the fact that you should be thankful… and be dedicated with nothing in return.
Appreciation is obtained not expected, to be precise.

@Avallachi

There is literally a direct connection between users’ stats

You don’t understand, everything I’ve stated above is just some ways to be promoted to Regular, and stats does not make you Regular, they didn’t disclose it properly so users wouldn’t abuse this, though, in reality, obtaining the rank of Regular isn’t obtained through stats or how many likes your posts get in this forum.

[metatablecatgirl]

Post Approval got seriously backed up and so it was removed as it became overwhelming for the team.

Regular means you can be trusted to not post utter garbage on high-priority channels to engineers, Lounge is a nice side channel, even though it’s always dead.

Your activity on the forum will not get you promoted, if you want an actual system, it should be based on your quality of posts, not how active you are.

For example; lets have two theoretical users, one’s who never active, and one who’s very active.

The very active user could be contributing to the spam to Development Discussion by constantly asking off-topic threads there. This isn’t going to get them Regular because Roblox doesn’t want to trust you with bug reports.

The inactive user though, could post a really detailed post on how the Plugin API works, but under you theoretical system, because they’re never active. Roblox wouldn’t promote them.

[iamtryingtofindname]

@megapaul0917

I’ll ask you back, why do you need appreciation despite the fact this is just a Developer Forum, and you shouldn’t even expect something… Isn’t your dedication to the forum enough for your to be already apart of it? You don’t need appreciation to be apart of something…

So you are saying that if someone were to take your regular away, you would be fine with it because it doesn’t matter?

Step inside the shoes of a member. You don’t want this because you want regular to be more exclusive, which is rather selfish.

[FxllenCode]

Please stop with this “inclusion” argument. I’m a member. We don’t need to rush promotions. Have you seen the state of #development-discussion?

If you want to be regular so you can get the “perks” and feel “included”, then stop using this forum. I don’t know how many times I have to say it, regular gives you permissions to post in #bug-reports and #feature-requests. That’s it. Don’t use the excuse of “well members cannot create bug reports” because yes, you can. If you’ve spent enough time on this forum and read the guidelines you can see exactly how you can report a big as a member.

You should not want to be a regular for the sake of #lounge, just use discord.

@Avallachi

My stats per now are 1.1k+ likes received, 3.5k+ profile visits, 9 days+ read time (216+ hours), 32.4k+ posts read, 90+ solutions and 900+ days visited (365+ days in a row).

Stats mean nothing in terms of your trust level. Regular is given based on your ability to write proper bug reports.

I understand this is harsh, but I am tired of members wanting regular just for the sake of regular. This isn’t a social forum, this is a developer forum.

[megapaul0917]

@iamtryingtofindname

So you are saying that if someone were to take your regular away, you would be fine with it because it doesn’t matter?

I’ll be honest, even when I was a Member I wasn’t really looking forward to becoming a Regular too much, there’s really not much into it. I’d even be fine if they made Members and Regulars equal, so, to answer your question. Yes.

@iamtryingtofindname

Step inside the shoes of a member. You don’t want this because you want regular to be more exclusive, which is rather selfish.

I used to be a Member myself and didn’t envy the Regulars, you though, in the other hand shows you envy users with the Regular role as seen in your statements, being a Regular, dosen’t mean we’re higher than Members we’re just trusted in posting more freely in certain restricted categories where Members can’t reply with the former Post Approval.
Hilariously you’ve mistakenly thought what being a Regular is, we don’t have any ‘exclusive’ abilities other than being trusted to create threads in certain categories.

[Avallachi]

The amount of likes received can be used as a way to tell how contributive a user’s posts are. When you like a post it is usually because you agree with-, or find the post useful.

[Avallachi]

I never stated that I solely wanted the promotion to get access to #lounge. Please stop making assumptions and keep your negative opinions to yourself.

[FxllenCode]

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@Avallachi

The amount of likes received can be used as a way to tell how contributive a user’s posts are. When you like a post it is usually because you agree with-, or find the post useful.

No? Likes mean nothing about how contributive a user is. That is not at all how you should be representing a person to decide if they are worthy of promotion.

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@Avallachi

I never stated that I solely wanted the promotion to get access to #lounge.

You said, and I quote,

@Avallachi

I am among many who wishes to get more perks and feel more included within the forum after a long time of consistent contribution.

Unless you can tell me what are the “perks” you are talking about, I have every reason to believe you are referring to #lounge.

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[megapaul0917]

@Avallachi

The amount of likes received can be used as a way to tell how contributive a user’s posts are.

Wrong, normally, likes just show how users like the fact that you’ve given, but it dosen’t mean it’s contributive. I’ve seen off-topic posts obtaining so much likes, and this just proves likes isn’t a reliable source to which your posts are said to be “contributive”.
Another example is that, if you see something that you like in a post, you would like it… even though it’s not contributive or educational.

@Avallachi

I never stated that I solely wanted the promotion to get access to #lounge.

Shall we review this?

@Avallachi

I am among many who wishes to get more perks and feel more included within the forum after a long time of consistent contribution.

I’ll be saying this once again, you shouldn’t expect anything from the Developer Forum, other than you should be giving contributive posts that will help developers, not expecting anything in return or from this forum.