This is just AI, i mean if it was so bad why would Microsoft invest in it?
After a bit of observation, Iāve changed my take on this
I support this. ChatGPT should be banned for answers and resources.
Iāve seen lots of ātutorialsā created on the DevForum that were basically copied and pasted from the chat bot. Same with scripting support answers. Or sometimes just replies all together.
Not only is it evidence that you donāt have an interest of helping others out, its just plain out spam at this point.
I wonāt say much since the others in this thread covered the points I wanted to make, but to the people saying that it could be useful in some ways:
There are more cons than pros when permitted ChatGPT. Not only does it create lots of spam, but copying and pasting scripting support answers is shameful. It shows you have no interest of helping others and that you just want to inflate the stats on your profile.
Hereās just one of many examples of members generating answers:
Literally a copy and paste.
Itās easy to tell the difference between a human written answer and an answer generated from ChatGPT. Several reliable tools have been made to detect whether text was generated by ChatGPT or written by a human.
It would be a great decision to ban the chat bot. Itās going to get out of control eventually. We need to ban the bot before that happens.
Because of the amount of potential it has.
Itās not that simple.
Also, I canāt see Roblox ever buying the ChatGPT.
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My view is that AI responses should be done responsibly, and not to replace human interaction.
For example, if weāre discussing ChatGPT as the topic of the thread, and someone quotes a ChatGPT reply as context for their discussion, that should be allowed. In any other circumstance though, it isnāt appropriate.
The rule in my view should be:
- Is an AI response contextually relevant? For example, are people discussing in Lounge / Dev Discussion the impact of AI on code completion then it should be allowed.
- Is the response entirely generated without any human intervention by a user? For example, many users will use GitHub Copilot to enhance their coding, and in my view thatās different from writing post content on the forums. However in any case, it is the authors responsibility to ensure the accuracy of the code theyāve posted.
The difference between ChatGPT posting a reply and a human posting the reply is a big one.
If someone wanted an AI to respond, they can go to OpenAI and ask it themselves. The fact that people are posting here implies theyāre looking for human assistance to a problem.
Likewise, ChatGPT has no understanding of Roblox past what it can scrape from documentation, much of which can be inaccurate or outdated. It is unable to solve many novel problems people might have, but itāll always respond with a confidence that isnāt representative of that fact. Essentially, ChatGPT isnāt just often wrong, itās also always confident that itās right. This is behaviour we donāt except from people, let alone an AI.
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Just a little add on:
Hereās just one of many examples of members generating answers:
Literally a copy and paste. People like the one shown above have no interest in helping others and are instead just trying to farm solution counts on their profile.
Itās easy to tell the difference between a human written answer and an answer generated from ChatGPT. Several reliable tools have been made to detect whether text was generated by ChatGPT or written by a human.
It would be a great decision to ban the chat bot. Itās going to get out of control eventually. We need to ban the bot before that happens.
Iāve edited my reply to include this.
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Calling me out is rude and against the TOS. My goal is to help the community. What is your goal with banning the chatbot?
Chatbot answers can be extremely helpful.
I have 3 solutions that I used the chatbot to help generate code for:
If you have problems with me or how I have been helping the community message me directly. Creating a thread because you donāt understand the future of coding is wrong.
wait actually? ai is getting advanced enough to write code in lua U??
Not all of the code it writes in Luau is accurate or even functional.
No, Iām not kidding that actually worked perfectly. I had to convert it to be serversided to work with my admin script but overall it worked nicely.
Yes, however, as I stated, not everything it writes will be perfect.
Correct, yes, but āhelped generate codeā is a key point here, its easy to play with some errors and fix the code to be used correctly. lua u isnāt that much different from regular lua.
I mean at that point, you should write it yourself
Not always, Iād rather fix errors than write code. If you have experience than its easy to just chip off a few errors
Most coders have a repository of code snippets they use to do things. Trying to re-write code over and over again is in-efficient. In fact I myself have over 30 different code snippets that I will adapt towards whatever Iām working on.
If you are re-writing code that you wrote in the past you will be slow. Time is money my friend and anything you can do to speed up the process of creating code for your customer is all thatās really important. Do you think the customer cares that you spent 1 hour to code something using a chatbot vs. 20 hours coding the same thing without the chatbot?
I guarantee you the customer only cares about the speed at which you accomplish the task. Chatbots are the future of coding. The quicker you can get on board and figure out how to use them by creating better inquiries the more successful you will become.
What does reusing code have to do with ChatGPT though? You can just save your code somewhere and copy + paste it somewhere else later.
Then the customer can just use ChatGPT instead? Youāve pretty much just said that the bot can do the same thing as you.
Not quite, chat bots will just become more used since you really donāt have to pay for them.
The point of the OP is that using ChatGPT for replies here doesnāt make sense since since youāre not really putting effort or doing anything for your posts (theyāre just AI generated).
Someone can just use ChatGPT themselves if they truly wanted to see an AI-generated response.
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You assume that everyone who is looking for help knows about chatbots and knows how to create inquiries that will provide them the correct answer.
As has been pointed out, the chatbot is a very new technology and a lot of people donāt fully understand how to get them to work. If a person who is not familiar with Luaa or coding tries a simple query they will say that 9 out of 10 times the chatbot doesnāt give them what they want.
On the other hand, if I convert what they want into a query the chatbot can understand better I can produce quality code that (so far) more than 80% of the time solves the problem.
Again, if I come to these forums itās because I have a problem that needs solves. Do most coders care if the answer is AI generated, even if that answer solves their problem?
Are you trying to talk yourself into believing that just because you made a robot write something for you means you made it?
You solved nothing, you merely posted what an AI told you (likely without even verifying that the answer was correct).
Thereās giving people bad advice by accident because you genuinely didnāt know any better, and then thereās just outright negligence from just copy+pasting whatever you get told by a computer.
You shouldnāt be proud that youāve spouted so much misinformation, especially misinformation that you didnāt even create.
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The difference between you and them:
They tried. Like actually tried. A human was behind that answer. Not a bot.
Unlike them, you gave a solution, an incorrect one on that, with no effort. Didnāt even bother to see if it was right. Giving incorrect information is wrong on so many levels. If you must use the bot, make sure you arenāt providing outdated/incorrect information.
Honestly Iām fine with ChatGPT for answers as long as itās not creating unhelpful feedback. If you are checking your answer or adding a disclaimer itās made by AI (and youāre not replying to future problems, for example āfixesā that fixed the old problem but made a new one), sure, go ahead. I donāt care. The problem is lazy people are saying āoh this person needs help welp time to go to ChatGPTā. Spoiler alert: Itās not helping.
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What Iām noticing here is that many people are demanding ChatGPT responses to be banned, but yet theyāre not actually providing any solutions on how to make that a reality.
ā¦Like, how exactly are you supposed to tell the difference between a person and A.I in terms of typing answers on an online forum?
Because literality anyone that uses correct grammar and proper punctuation can easily look like an A.I generated response aswell, which is exactly why they shouldnāt be moderated.
This kind of thing can be very abuseable once you allow faulty A.I detectors to carry out moderation actions towards players, meaning that anyone that uses DevForum would be put at risk.
I understand being annoyed at ChatGPT responses, but Roblox just isnāt responsible enough to handle an issue like this yet, since they canāt even moderate the DevForum properly on weekends or nights in their current state.
So the best thing you can do is just flag any answers that either make no sense or are just wrong entirely, because more faulty bot moderation is the last thing we need right now.
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