COPPA 2.0 will ruin the platform

Roblox is supporting COPPA 2 or 2.0 which if passed will include terrible restrictions. Roblox is not even realizing that it will kill their platform literally and that they should not be supporting it. COPPA (Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act) is an act made in 1998 but went into effect in 2000 where companies and websites cannot collect data from people 12 and younger. And yes this is the reason why almost every website you see or smth is 13+. And COPPA ruined Youtube because now either you select whether your channel is for kids or not or you can decide between those two options on every video of your channel.

Kreekcraft summarizes this really well.

COPPA 2.0 aims at basically removing recommendation for young people. Unfortunately, worst part is that the act is aiming at people 16 and younger! Yes you read it right, people who are 16 or younger have more restrictions applied on them basically. I know there is more details on what the restrictions are that are in Kreek’s video and I don’t feel like mentioning more of it. Unfortunately, Roblox is also supporting COPPA 2.0 which will most likely kill their platform if it goes into effect.

So what is your opinion on this situation? One more thing, Kreekcraft is saying that he will go to the white house or Congress building in Washington DC and defend us soon.

Update: I am aware that Kreekcraft had some inaccuracies with the situation according to one of the people who replied pointing out that and linking the video in the reply of Kreekcraft analyzing the document made by @Trelakor.

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It wasn’t passed in the House in the 118th Congress. The bill is dead and been for months now. This information came from my Senator in Virginia, Tim Kaine, when I reached out to him about this.

Congress will try future measures though. Stay informed by going to the government websites and if you’re in the United States, know who your Representative and Senators are. Reach out to them. If they don’t listen to their constituents, vote them out.

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and uhh

how does this kill the platform again

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I guess less informed decisions for Roblox. Recommendation algorithms and data collection in general. There might be specific things Roblox wouldn’t want people to do unless there’s that data collection involved.

Not that it’s 100% like this, or would be, but think of everything people under 13 can’t do on Roblox. I assume that’d extend to those under 16, if that bill passed overall. This is a hypothetical of course.

I’d argue if the act did pass, it’d set a growing precedent of government control in the internet rather than the power being the parent’s.

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Most of the stuff kreek said was just fearmongering.

You’re literally one of the people that fell through kreek’s fearmongering.

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Kreekcraft’s video on the matter has quite a few inaccuracies, it’s in no way “the end” of anything.

@Trelakor compiled a neat document on said inaccuracies over on Twitter.

He’s quite biased, he makes a living off Youtube after all.

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Also, there is 0.0000000001% that Coppa 2.0 could get approved cuz it didn’t go through since whatever dated back.
Chances are low but not always zero.

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I’d say we are fine.

Don’t really trust what kreek says, he is just saying things for attention.

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still doesn’t neccecarily ruin the platform

when i think of “ruin the platform” I’m thinking <13 users won’t be able to play and stuff, not just “nuh uh no data collecting!”

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There’s a lot of fearmongering regarding COPPA 2.0, now that I’ve actually read the bill - I am pretty certain that Roblox’s support of COPPA 2.0 is a strategic business decision, these are probably the 4 main reasons why:

1: Roblox wouldn’t really be affected by COPPA 2.0’s restrictions on PII due to the fact that COPPA 2.0 doesn’t actually ban companies from collecting PII like some people tend to think.
2: The specific restrictions on targeted advertising that COPPA 2.0 makes are not relevant to Roblox.
3: COPPA 2.0 does make it harder for newer companies to compete, since they probably would want to use targeted ads on YouTube for instance in order to reach a younger audience, with this, that wouldn’t be possible anymore. Additionally, the upfront infrastructure required would be much more expensive for a hypothetical competitor.
4: It looks good to the broader media, I don’t think I need to explain why Roblox finds that very advantageous.

I’m not a lawyer, or a super strong business man or anything like that, but when you see huge support of a proposed bill/new law from a company like we’re seeing with Roblox and COPPA 2.0, that company is almost certainly seeing either dollar signs for themselves, or a red stock number for others.

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Bruh how does that cause you to think that those certain users will not able to play or smth? Once you get the context of the situation, the “it will ruin the platform” is gonna be like not what you thought about in the beginning.

Sorry that I fell for some inaccuracies involving Kreek’s video. I know sometimes the situation is a bit exaggerated to basically create more drama. I wasn’t aware of the inaccuracies though. Thank you for pointing it out and showing another video of his talking about it.

True, roblox may have a lot of under 17 users quit and a lot of the users are under 17

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It will be like when the original COPPA was actually going to be enforced on youtube in 2020. A big controversy followed by the change really just being a tickbox since the platform is literally unable to moderate who is under 16 and who is 16 or above.

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The 16-year-olds are gonna be affected too. I don’t get why the age is varying so much when it just 16 and under that have to deal with this. The topic here was dead for some time, thank you for reviving it though bro.

ima be depressed for like five years if this passes and I have enough to worry about with final exams coming up. it will affect a lot of people in a negative way :pensive: I AM SICK AND TIRED OF THE UNDER 13S BEING TREATED LIKE BABIES. AND NOW THE 16,15,14, AND 13 YR OLDS ARE BEING TREATED LIKE THIS??
like, come on I finally got freedom from the restrictions in FEBUARY AND THEN IM JUST GONNA GET EM PUT BACK ON?!

i will not stand for this.
this is not right.

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Half the people on this thread are highlighting why this law is actually useful. People’s almost parasocial obsession with this platform is worrying.

The facts are it won’t stop under 16s from chatting, it just means they will have safe chat.

It won’t stop under 16s from playing games, but it will stop Roblox and other platforms from collecting data so they can recommend you addicting games.

It will also hand parents the powers to limit what their children are playing.

In short, this bill will improve Roblox not kill it.

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99 percent sure nobody wants super safe chat especially if they are 16 and are old enough…

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It’s not super safe chat, it’s just safe chat.
And, seeing the things people can say without safe chat, it’s probably for the best.

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Super safe chat isn’t even used by Roblox anymore, it was a temporary thing to comply with COPPA 1.0 Regulations

Safe chat is the highest-restricted chat now, for under 13s, but for COPPA 2.0 it will be under 16s.

Normal chat is for 13+ (will now be 16+ if the bill passes for US citizens or COPPA-complying contries.)

You fell for kreekcraft’s bait. And this is an absolutely idiotic set of replies must I add, you should take a break and reflect on what is going on in your life.

And anyway, like @Reditect said, efforts to pass it in the House of Representatives during the 118th Congress killed it and unless they try again, no need to worry about this.

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