Yes you have to be 17+ to create a 17+ game
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I’m kind of confused - how are we supposed to make money off of something that is so heavily guarded? Developers and players need to be 17+ and prove it with a government ID, you’re removing Parental Consent and basically making it impossible to succeed on the platform as a 17+ experience whilst waving hands doing magic tricks trying to convince your very passionate developer-base that you’ve actually given us a superior creative outlet.
On top of those limitations; there is limited marketing potential, there is limited money-making potential, and you’re not going to allow us to make our games popular on the platform. What’s the point?
This is akin to saying “Yeah, feel free to make 17+ games, but it’s only for passion projects, and you’re destined to lose all your money making it!”
Truly a great update.
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This update is awesome i can’t wait to make and experince 17+ experinces with my friends and not be bothered by children joining.
I don’t understand why specifically the infamous “Red Solo Cups” are allowed and not any other alchol drinking implement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solo_Cup_Company these cups are almost entirely only used in north america and it seems ethnocentric to force places with alcohol mentions to only use solo cups, and not actual bottles of beer or wine.
This policy also doesn’t make sense. I get no sexual content but what is the point of making romantic experinces if users aren’t allowed to romantically communicate with each other, flirt with each other, or try to make relationships with each other?
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As stated in the post, they are trying to explore ways to permit that in the right context for future iterations.
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While I love the idea of ageing up Robox, I don’t like this idea where you have to verify your ID to play. Games are free, games cost money, not many games require a government ID…
Edit: You, as a Roblox player that has already verified your ID, may not find the idea of requiring an ID to be all that dystopian.
If you were someone that hasn’t touched Roblox before and you see an ad for a cool looking game with an * that says “Government ID verification required to play”, would you play it?
I don’t have a problem with Roblox restricting non 17+ people from playing 17+ games, I do have a problem with having to market a dystopian idea alongside my game.
The idea of needing an ID to play a game is weird to non Robloxians.
- Government ID verification required to play.
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I want to know about this too.
Roblox’s voice chat moderation has been very triggy happy as of late and I don’t know what I’m allowed to say or joke about anymore. If I’m an adult swearing around another adult (i.e. civil and in good taste, not harassment) I don’t want to be subjected to automatic moderation. Context is critical, and this was never an issue during the voice chat beta. In fact, it was understood and stated to be okay when they were first introducing voice chat.
One of my acquaintances GunFireDev got his account randomly terminated because of someone behaving inappropriately in proximity to him in a voice chat game. I don’t think anyone should be getting terminated without a thorough review of the context and circumstances.
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Kinda dissapointing. My game currently has (and i might have to remove it fully) a “casino” that lets players spin the slots with gameplay currency and has nothing to do with anything of value. This change just makes me wonder what in the heck im supposed to do. Replace it with an arcade and toss out all of the progress i made so far? What a joke, i just don’t know what to do. And letting paid random items stay is just like adding insult to injury, THAT is literal gambling.
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Since ROBLOX is a COPPA-compliant site, I’d suppose that’s why they require ID verification, to combat underage children accessing adult/mature-themed experiences. Other game platforms like Steam, for example, aren’t exactly directed to children, and the majority of its users are over the age of 13.
I am not exactly sure what’s the reason behind this, but I’d suppose it’s something along these lines.
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Along with these new restrictions, please allow age changes with ID verification even when under the age of 13:
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The last thing anyone would want is for someone under 17 to play a game intended for players 17 and older. Locking it behind age verification seems like the best thing (not the perfect thing) you can do to truly know if someone is above 17 or not. The flaw I can see in this is children using the IDs of their parents but I can’t think of a solution to prevent that to be honest.
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It’s to protect younger players from 17+ content, and to avoid lawsuits from parents claiming that Roblox didn’t do anything to protect their kids.
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I suppose it’s not quite the core point of this particular thread, but I might as well ask: Do sufficiently old accounts automatically get moved into different age groups? I created my account more than 13 years ago and absolutely should have access to that at the minimum, but due to COVID-induced backlog of all levels of government in my area I do not actually have any up to date legal ID at the moment (they waive off expired licenses, but that doesn’t mean Roblox knows to also do so)
…Not like I’d want to actually give Roblox my ID or face for that in the first place, but it’d be good to know.
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Definitely something we needed for a while, only thing i take issue with is uploading my government ID online, doesn’t matter where it is.
Knowing things I know, id be afraid of it being used for other means down the road.
Like @Alex645ca said i made my account back in 2012 and I have it over 13 set to my age, im in my mid 20s now, will there be exemptions, i also have my account verified by email and my cellphone number.
That said im glad roblox is starting to age up a bit, as someone in my 20s with an interest still in roblox games it is hard to find something that appeals. Not only that but now opens up more options for me if i do break down and do the id thing (highly prefer not to) for my game idea to not have to be toned down from my original ideas.
This being combat and other related things, before I was trying to think of ways i could have it so kids wpuld enjoy it too but still appealing to not only myself but other players like me
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Is there an ETA until we are allowed to create 17+ assets? Currently this just seems like an age gate
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This is still very restrictive. I’m not complaining, but I’m asking for a clarification on what is and is not allowed. For example:
17+ Experiences may contain non-sexual expressions of love and affection, and may reference romantic themes and topics. However, we prohibit content that depicts sexual activity or seeks real-world romantic relationships, including:
Romantic or flirtatious gestures or communication between users in a romantic context
This is quite unclear, does this mean that the gameplay loop cannot include players doing this with eachother, or does it mean that NPCs/cutscenes cannot include this.
In terms of the restriction, what is considered 17+ is quite low. I see nothing that points to the promised chat filter decrease for 17+ users, nor allowing topics that are actually “mature”. Best example is here:
17+ experiences may include depictions of, or references to, bodily functions such as belching, flatulence, vomiting, urinating, and/or defecation for comical purposes. Real-world depictions of these bodily functions are prohibited.
Does this make a game like this 17+?
This does not remind me of a 17+ game, but the guidelines suggest it is. To me, this is a children’s game.
tl;dr these 17+ guidelines are surprisingly restrictive
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Wait, so how can you do something like realistic deceptions of blood or violence if the content will still get moderated at 13+ standards? That doesn’t make sense. The examples provided do not scream “realistic” to me.
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it’ll only be limited for people who are incompetent at marketing and those who don’t have the ability to think outside of the box lol
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I believe a bigger concern would be children tricking their parents into using their selfies and identification, rather than the issue of fake IDs as most people attempting to verify their age through a fake ID usually fail.
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Yes, that is the same concern I have too. The child using the parents ID without permission
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Yeah I intended to say that. I’ve edited my original message. Thanks for pointing that out.
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