It is true, Devforum has taken a dark turn, and I am fairly new. I really would like more grammar and for people to be more proper.
About the low quality buildings, Sorry but that isn’t a proper point. the cool creations is for any type of buildings, I don’t get why u would comment that when your not the person hiring those people. Not trying to be rude.
The Devforum isn’t school or a english book. even though it would be nice still you don’t have to be the BEST at english to be on the devforum
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Overall, about the u can’t find help anymore is that what can’t you find help on?, Isn’t it that if u cant find a topic or help make a topic asking for the type for help u need?
I agree I see some topics that people say stuff that they don’t know what to say or its bad grammar hopefully staffs can fix this!
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Already posted, if you want to make suggestions go do it there. (Quality Issues With The Forum - Some Suggestions And Problems)
Staff can’t really fix people’s bad grammar. Some people don’t have english as a first language, and I don’t think @DevRel is gonna go and teach them english.
I meant like for devforum to be a little more helpful in the future I am not saying that people that don’t speak english needs to learn its the people needs some time to learn about topics and etc.
The developer forum isn’t meant to be some sort of private group right now, especially with the direction not just this place is going, but Roblox as a whole.
We all have to realize that Roblox’s developer community is huge. As Roblox grows, we’re going to get more developers. Without the dev forum or it being private, there would be no official platform for developers to collaborate, communicate with each other, and get help easily, especially since that the Roblox forums were removed (good riddance).
I will not deny that yes, there’s some low-quality contributions and other issues like that, but it isn’t THAT drastic. That is expected with forum growth. I’m also sure that there’s been plenty of high-quality contributions made from users who are, in fact, automatically accepted here. Furthermore, I’m pretty sure that the dev forum wasn’t made in mind to be a place full of good developers only (I could be wrong though here, correct me if I am).
If you want the forums to improve in quality, instead of complaining, how about suggesting new ways it can be improved? Everything in the world, including the forums, can be improved.
Plus, I’m pretty sure that having the devforums automatically accept users as opposed to having it be application only is going to save Dev-Rel a lot of time and resources.
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I’m gonna be plain out honest. You didn’t even lie. The only thing the DevForum is good for now is criticism on your work.
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Yet still got people like “No, you’re wrong.”
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Exactly. I will never understand why people here need to bring others down either out of jealously\anger.
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Going to throw my coin into this as this has topic has been bubbling in various dev forum discords.
It would be wrong to ignore how big the forum has grown since 2 years ago, but equally, it would be incorrect to assume that the number of quality posts has diminished. In fact, there are probably more quality posts being made now, than back in 2018. From my perspective, there are plenty of users, both regulars and members, which both by the way are virtually the same, and the regular role does not hold any weight against members anymore, that make amazing posts. Posts, that we as forum members want to see, but what outweighs those posts, are the number of threads that either:
- end up being a duplicate thread (a result of either the OP not searching up if any exist, wanting to get an answer without reviving an old post, or in very rare instances, making a post within a few seconds/minutes of another)
- start off being meaningful discussion points but end up spiralling off-topic for various reasons
- off-topic from the get-go/not in the relevant category
These are clear issues that either contradict expected forum etiquette or issues that you can outright flag for, and these issues will not go away unless there is a major social change in attitude towards these issues. We should be openly progressing towards a forum where mistakes are not only tolerated but learning from them is encouraged.
I would argue that this is entirely subjective, and is purely based on your view (not suggesting your view is bad, its a view and I respect that). A community is meant to talk about things, and if people are engaging in active conversation on the forum about development, then this forum is serving its purpose. It’s only when off-topic posts are released that issues come up because it sets the precedent that these forums are the “new Roblox forums”, when actually, this is directly tailored to us as developers. Thus, I think we can let things like grammar misuse or spelling mistakes slide, as this forum aims to facilitate everyone, from the casual devs to the serious ones. That being said…
Nobody here is perfect.
It would be both wrong, and extremely unwelcoming to assume that on the get-go, all members have to be of a certain level of skill and know every single rule, nook, cranny of the forum. The forum welcomes developers with varying levels of skills, with varying degrees of background, without care of whether they’re a novice or a professional.
If somebody is offering an answer to a question, even if it’s not the “best” way or even if it may not be relevant to what the OP’s specifically asking, they’ve gone out of their way to help someone. They have made the step to try and fix someone’s problem, and this is the attitude we should all have. We should be trying to help out our friends whenever we can and if they’re wrong, then they should be open for the feedback they receive and demonstrate tolerance while receiving it. Even if we’re professionals, we are still all learning in some way or another.
That’s fine, this is your personal preference, and there are plenty of people who feel like this. What I think is a common theme, is that a lot of the veteran members have aged up, and the common issue they have is they feel like the forum is not really maturing with them, or isn’t a place where they can have conversations with advanced developers. There is only so much Roblox can do about this, but there are plenty of communities out there, that are filled with mature developers, which are probably right up your alleyway. You just need to be prepared to step out of the comfort zone and dig for gold.
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When I started developing, I had literally no one to go to. I learned by myself. I know this is something that’s beneficial and also has its problems. I wish I had something like this years ago.
At least add some kind of standards to this forum. Because honestly, it’s just bad.
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I totally agree with you i just saw a scripter portfolio filled with just tutorials and free models and the guy was saying that everything was made by him. This should be fixed.
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No one’s perfect? Y’all make it seem like it’s a literal rule to be perfect.
One grammar mistake on your post, someone’s gonna flag it and the Mod’s will find a problem with it.
See something from your point of view you say? Let’s be realistic, we can’t have a POV here when @Chordily mentioned all the things in her post were right. You can’t really have a POV in this case…
This whole topic has become an argument between people. This post was made strictly for feedback. I’d rather if everyone would just stop. No one needs to be coming at me saying I’m wrong. When they know that the points I made are true.
The whole discussion has gotten off topic.
Oh look, one of the points I made.
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I would disagree with the fact that you’re making feedback. In your original post, that was not providing any help for people working on the forum. Instead, you were going on a meaty rant saying a large portion of the community on the DevForum has no idea what they are doing and apparently the elitist era of the DevForum is superior to the current forum. The main reason people are mad is because you make a senseless rant and provide ZERO feedback. It’s ridiculous.
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If newer people are allowed onto this fourm, so are more scammers, exploiters looking to take builds you’re just displaying for feedback and etc.
I’ve had to wait months for my application/in order to be accepted into this fourm.
Why cant roblox just redirect the newer users to a mini fourm such as Scripting Helpers ? I used it couple years ago when I just started programming it’s pretty useful.