… and are scaring away honest users, in case you didn’t realize.
I’ve been looking into Roblox scripting, reading the fourm on and off for the past weeks. Yesterday I finally stumbled into a question I couldn’t find the answer to so I decided to register and ask - as you do with any sane community - only to find out that I am not allowed to post.
A forum you can join but not post a question to - that was a first for me.
Not just that. There aren’t any hints up on the landing page either. No introductory UI to take you through the rules and essential posts. Nothing whatsoever on how to gain the ability to post, at the link in the introductory PM or anywhere. It just a forum you cannot post to, making you put your question you came with aside, and instead go on and search for an explanation in other sources.
Taking away the primary function of a forum is the dumbest way to provide safety I have seen yet. Not a captcha, not a guided learning path, not a limit on the frequency of posting or a peer reviewed first post. Just a dumb effort wall, blocking anyone regardless of their intent or age or competence.
I didn’t join to spam or troll or ask stupid questions, still it made me sit down for well over four hours scrolling through the posts I have no interest or intent to partake in, to no ones benefit. It didn’t protect the community from any harm, it didn’t increase the engagement, all it did is wasted my time, filled me with bitternes and doubt in competence of the people running this place. With all this said - feel free to change nothing if that was your intent.
Yes, we’re very aware of this being inconvenient, it’s been posted about a few times. We’ve had trouble prioritizing a solution for this issue compared to working on other projects. I’ll bring this up again with the product managers, thanks for posting!
I agree! I don’t even know why this still exists as bots still exist on the forum, and the system’s sole purpose is to prevent bots which it fails at miserably. It’s just better to do what basically every other forum does which is to not have that feature and to just get better forum moderation. Take for example, the blenderartists.org community. At first, it has basic limits like number of posts and such, but as you progress, you level up and get more freedom on what you can do.
making devforum less strict will result in horrible outcome people will start botting,trolling,posting nsfw content and etc devforum verification being strict is good enough i would recommend keeping devforum how it is because if it became less strict it would ruin the entire community there would be alot of trolls, maybe bots as well and etc
I see your point, but then again it’s a way to avoid raids and spammers from freely posting in the forum. I agree that the forum tutorial should be improved, that’s an idea i pitched in a while ago. In my opinion, ID verified accounts should not have to go through this eligibility maze.
theres nothing stopping somebody buying an account that is id verified and using it to swear,post nsfw content,troll in comments etc
because roblox is a big platform and has millions of daily active users if devforum became less strict it would be a disaster and create unsafe environment for everyone they would also have to hire more dedicated mods for devforum and even if they did all that it still wouldnt fix the problems
Eh… It’s likely the perception that it fails rather than actually being that bad (compared to just logging in I mean). You see the posts by those who bypass things and you usually don’t see the behind-the-scenes. I wonder if there’s a number tracked of accounts that are flagged as bots.
And, it’s all in comparison. What’s a better way forums deal with bots? Well, that’s somewhat flawed as this community is unique, like each community, and thus can face differing issues—popularity, tech-savyness, or whatever else. That said, I’d assume most discourse forums use the trust level system idea (not just the TL system itself) of adding permissions as a user spends more time on that forum (like the Blender Artists forum w/ image upload limits). One of those is making a high (or should I say higher) barrier to entry (compared to just ‘logging in’).
In short, I think just having the requirement be having a Roblox account and logging in likely is not enough to stop bots (but needing a Roblox account might be too much for game devs outside the Roblox community). And, based on the OP, what we have now is seen as too much. So, there’s likely a middle ground somewhere.
There is the @discobot for the tutorial, assuming it’s still used today. It could probably be more updated, here’s the old one I got when joining:
back than when devforum had strict verification system some person got banned on roblox website but could access devforum so they posted gore thefore i think it would be best for everyone if devforum stayed as it is therres no reason to re invesnt the wheel just keep how it is everyone is happy already
also id verified accounts aint that expensive many people buy them because they come with voice chat too
I agree with this. I had this same problem a few months back where I couldn’t quite find a post/solution about my issue at all, and just had to go through a few hours of trial and error.
This had happened multiplie times where I was confused and had no idea on what to do, as @awry_y said, It’d be better if you add limitations on what you can post instead of removing the feature entirely for new forum users.
A better way for a forum to deal with bots is, like you said, putting the barrier a little bit higher. In my opinion, a good way to keep bots out is:
Requiring accounts to be above a certain account age.
Also, when was the last time you encountered a bot on the forum? In my case, that’s never. I have never seen a bot on the forum which just means that it’s useless to have a limit in the first place as there aren’t any bots on the forum spamming stuff. In my years on the forum since July 21st, 2021, I encountered only ONE single bot which was taken down quickly.
I just think that it’s best to either make the time duration lenient and to make the eligibility barrier higher and to ensure that the moderation is active 24/7.
Also, most of the time the forum is raided by trollers rather than bots sooo… it’s a moderation flaw.
theres alt generated accounts that are 3-4 years old some of them are even from 2008 and they are accessible for everyone for like 2 k robux lifetime license please do research next time thanks
this can still be abused and theres nothing stopping people from creating bots and posting bad stuff this is horrible idea considering how big roblox is because there will be defintly somebody abusing this or service providing people devforum alt accounts
And how exactly is having a complete restriction on posting going to help with this issue?
The point of this post is to point out that this feature is a terrible one, and driving people away while being a waste of time. Even with this feature there are still bots/trolls.
because it prevents bad parties creating bad posts and trolling unless you want filter system to be added on devforum that would most likely prevent you posting scripts i think it should stay how it is
