It’s exciting to see all the amazing skinning work in progress on this thread, nice job everyone!
Today, Roblox will be enabling a new internal code path relating to skinned MeshParts. This change lays the groundwork for some exciting developer facing features coming soon, but in itself should be unnoticed. That said, there is one known issue that we are hoping won’t impact many developers: if you have added joints to your skeleton hierarchy in Studio, that didn’t exist in your FBX import, they may not deform correctly. If your Studio skeleton hierarchy matches your FBX import, you should be unaffected. We have a fix for this in progress, but we want to enable this new code path without it, so we can stress test it as much as possible and get the new features to you as soon as possible.
If you are adversely impacted by this change, or if you notice any other regressions, please let us know, and we will work with you to resolve any issues asap. Thanks for your support and patience, we couldn’t do this without you!
Is there any possibility of adding support for bulk-setting the positions of Bone objects? An issue with my ocean code stems from how I simply cannot update many bones in bulk due to them being somewhat expensive - I have implemented a lot of code such as frustum culling just to try and mitigate the issue by as much as possible, but I believe a bulk-position setter would be the most optimal approach at the end of the day.
Could you apply the bone animations in chunks and only enable the animations for chunks within a certain distance of the character, doing this locally might increase performance too.
If you are using offset than you could create a algorithm to determine the offset of a bone(bone.transform) and apply them locally with in a range of the character, you could also use these values to calculate physics of the height of waves, so a part could float on top of a wave.you might want to do this with a module script so that the module script could take in other info like if there is a storm or not(waves get taller) or if there is no wind(waves are very flat)
I know very little about actors, but to my knowledge they might help
I’ve already done more than enough on my end. Setting a bone’s position takes 85% of the total update time alone - and I perform a whole summed gerstner wave algorithm per every bone, so you can see how it’s quite expensive.
It updates at 2ms. The issue is that I need to limit how much I can update - I can’t make the waves more detailed (more bones per square stud), and have to resort to spreading out the bones over a bigger grid, like tyridge does in his video.
We would like to optimize this eventually. Is there a way you can get the same effect using animations? That would be the fastest way to do it for now.
Sadly no, as it would ultimately be much less dynamic - I customize ocean settings where for instance the shore has calm waves, whilst the ocean has dangerous storms with huge waves. Animations would be not only extremely hard to use, but you’d have to remake them every time we would want to decide to fine tune them.
Basically, instead of updating every frame, I divide all the bones into tables that get smoothly interpolated over a few frames. This way the work that has to be done is nicely divided. Instead of having to compute 4000 positions at once, it now is reduced to 400 for example.
I found TweenService to be really slow and buggy, so I created my own (simple) interpolation module.
The code for my waves can be found here: https://github.com/noah-peeters/Roblox-Procedural-Ocean (the interpolation module is here: src/shared/WaveHandler/InterpolateVector3)
Having an option similar to BulkMoveTo would be extremely handy though. As it would improve every bulk bone movement.
Like others, when I edit my character which is a skinned mesh - it uses Dogu15 - it flickers all the limbs. This needs a fix soon as it’s making games that used skinned mesh rigs look worse.
What happened to my request of allowing us to use any constraint such as springs, to skin meshes? Im still not able to create a trampoline, or a strechy rope.
will Importing S15 directly autorigs if there is no bone for it?
because i don’t wanna use Mixamo since it’s problematic with name Detecting it’s named mixamorigs:RightHand and i want it to be “RightHand” instead since willbobdie’s script is only working for few rigs I’ve downloaded from roblox dev hub
it works fine until realized that they still won’t go with RightHand
also when will there be auto rigs because i need this to be added! and since i’m confused how are they able to rig without getting stretch error
Could this “non-animated state” be manipulated, specifically by saving/changing default poses within Roblox? Seems like it could solve more than one problem.
I run into the same issue of reverting to the initial pose, but only because my mesh is R15 compatible. The default jumping animation does not use the arms, so they revert to the “T pose” midjump. The problem is there’s no combination of arm positions that would be acceptable for the entirety of the game, so there’s no point changing the pose during loading.
Being able to take a snapshot/freeze of a frame of an animated pose (and make it the default pose) right before doing something that isn’t animated (or just partially animated) would solve a lot of problems.
If such a thing is possible, I do not know what words to search for. This doesn’t sound restricted to skinned meshes, but skinned meshes are more likely to show up in their design pose.
Can’t you just run a looped Core priority animation that consists of the frame that you want it to revert to. I think that would work because animations from any priority will overlap if there are no keyframes assigned to a certain bone/motor6d.
This is how I intend to work around the problem, once I actually have to solve it. It’s not entirely clear how much work that will be, due to the newness of it all. Do I have to record a new single-frame animation for every variation I have to fix, or is there a way to truncate an animation via code? And if I can truncate an animation to one frame on the fly, isn’t that essentially a snapshot?
You actually just answered a question I posted a while back that had no replies. Thanks for that! I was always wondering if I could circumvent all of this by separating left arm/right arm animations from the legs (and making autonomous animations like blinking and breathing part of core movement). This would be a lot more elegant solution to a tool heavy game.
Can you, or someone else, elaborate on what this means?
As far as I know placing a bone from your base imported mesh to a random part will just completely break your skinned mesh, as it can’t function without its bones being directly under it (which you recommend we parent to another part). Might be wrong though.
And how do you recommend we connect those separate parts? With BallSocketConstraints? I am pretty new to Constraints so not really sure what it takes to actually connect them.
This morning, we will be enabling a change in skinned MeshParts that should go unnoticed. If you do notice any problems, please reach out, and we will work with you to resolve them asap. Thanks for your hard work and patience!
