People already bot audios, decals, and models.
Source: look at the audios/decals/models frontpage+most sales of all time.
Well the platforms that DO charge that donât have the unreasonable taxes and devex rates. To add insult to injury, they made this update which costs money to upload things.
The thing people arenât getting is that roblox isnât doing this to stop bots. They are doing this for more money. There are WAY better ways to get rid of bots but roblox decides to use the way which will actually aid them, but make roblox money in the proccess.
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Look at the post I just made. Roblox doesnât want to stop botting, they want to make money.
Yes but theres only 30 - 40 of them. Theres millions of botted clothing on the catalog. Plus clothing designers have a confirmed 50 robux to pay with audio it really depends on the size of the audio. That can range anywhere up to 500 robux.
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All new clothing designers have no chance to build up anymore, RIP Talented clothing designers.
You will need at least 16 sales to make the money back (if the shirt gives them 3 Robux after tax), yet most smaller groups do not make that amount in sales.
This means that all small groups will just quit uploading clothing, however the copying that Roblox is trying to combat will continue due to the bigger groups having the funds to continue copying, bumping the clothing to front page and making profits.
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Bots donât compete as is, and most of the clothing they upload in large quantities is not sold more than a couple times due to the shear volume of identical clothing. Even if they adjusted their uploading rate/curated their stuff much better(which i doubt they would do), they still arenât making any where near the return they did before because it isnât free to upload anymore for them. Clothing groups will suffer, naturally, but the bots are taking a huge hit to their bottom line, because even uploading 10 clothes is 500 robux, whereas before, simply spending 5 dollars and or stealing a group, they could reupload thousands of the same shirts over and over.
Actual clothing groups can maintain this business model, especially if they start making games to supplement their robux gain. From premium payouts alone in empty test places, I get 50 robux a week. I would imagine that a clothing store, which would likely have higher traffic from premium users, could net the necessary robux for 30+ clothing a month.
Iâll admit however, while it is easy to get the robux to even sell clothes, payouts to the individuals who make said clothes will very obviously suffer. The profit margins are very slim, and I donât see roblox changing that any time soon. If profiting off of clothing commissions is what you want to do, then you could very easily use an external service for payment(e.g. paypal, venmo).
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This is false and Iâll tell you why. Itâs a little something known as âfront-pagingâ and is a practice that both botters and legit designers alike are guilty of. For botters, it is how they make their revenue.
How it works is that you take any piece of clothing and change the price to at least 10k, the higher the better. Then you purchase that piece and afterwards, change the price back to something between 5 - 10. Youâre guaranteed 70% of your deposit back, you just need to worry about making up the other 30% through the itemâs sales.
The reason this is called âfront-pagingâ is because, as you can probably guess, the item gets boosted to the front pages of the catalog. # of sales donât matter; the more Robux spent on the item, the closer to the front page it gets. The closer to the front page your item gets, the more sales it gets, and more profit for you.
The catalog is NOT unused. Roblox is a kidâs game and everything in it is catered towards kids; millions of kids 13 and under that donât know a thing about the clothing design community. When a younger player wants a new outfit, more often than not they simply go to the catalog and look through the front pages. Unaware of the fact that most of the items they see have been stolen and/or front-paged. Unaware of the hard work and effort that some designer out there put in to make that piece of clothing they are about to buy. Unaware of the fact that they probably arenât even buying from the original designer.
Botters (and big clothing groups that want to boost their sales) use this knowledge to engage in the act of front-paging, and that is why they make so much Robux. I hope this reply helped deepen your understanding of the reality of this issue.
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On top of the front paging, this also wonât get rid of all the clothing thatâs already been uploaded (and, as we all know, all gets thousands of robux very regularly with ease over all the clothing uploaded)
Instead of this, how about account age requirements (ex: account must be older than 2 months), verified email & two-factor authentication, AND premium + the captcha youâve mentioned needed to upload instead of this paywall? Seriously, this couldâve been done ANY other way.
The return for smaller clothing designers is already minimal as it is, so asking for a starting fee on a piece of clothing that may likely not even get any sales is asking a bit much and is going to sway a huge amount of clothing designers away from your platform which means:
-Losing a large player base
-Still leaving options for bots to create clothing, actually making it easier for already-established spam sellers as they no longer need to pay for premium monthly and can just bank off of the continuous revenue flow that their stolen clothing nets them.
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So clothing designers now have to pay to not get their clothes stolen instead of simply just adding a captcha everytime someone uploads clothing, or making non-premium users pay and premium users upload for free? Anything at all, and you choose the money route. Ridiculous.
Do not take this harshly, instead use it as advice.
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And get falsely banned for âoff site dealsâ?
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I used to be in favor of this cause, but now that I think about it, Roblox may actually be doing this for another cause, and that is for 3D clothing.
There would be no need for Roblox to specify â2Dâ unless 3D clothing is being released soon. Roblox wants to gravitate people away from 2D clothing and become interested in 3D clothing, as 3D clothing will likely have no fee.
Therefore, theyâre masking this as a poor excuse for âstolen clothesâ,
Did they say 3D clothing was going ti be specifically for ugc?
Thatâs a bad mentality to have saying he cant have an opinion because he doesnât design clothes is like saying you cant judge food because you donât cook. Or you cant judge roblox because you donât make game development platforms. Everyone is allowed to have their opinion, and you should respect that.
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Actually roblox is like real life because it has an economy and marketing.
Honestly, this update is awesome! This update will definitely clean up the clutter brought to the catalog by bots and Iâll finally be able to see original clothing!
This concept of âpreventing botted stolen clothingâ is innovative yet ridiculous.
But iâm leaning more towards the âridiculousâ side.
The amount of botted clothes are not going to cease down as greatly as you think. There are wide amounts of well established botted clothing groups who wouldnât be much as affected as compared to small clothing groups/designers. It WILL impact many small clothing groups a lot because they are limited to the amount of clothings they can make/sell. I own a small clothing group and I barely make it pass 30 robux sales daily. I usually make like 10 clothes per week so it would cost 1000 robux total (about $10 in my currency) to upload those clothes. I am not able to profit from this at all thus causing me to be at a verge of dropping out of this clothes designing industry.
It really restricts small clothing designers profits and affordability to upload clothes. Iâm sure many would bring their clothing businesses to a halt and probably ROBLOX economy would drop.
Though it may seem helpful to reduce botted clothes, I think itâll affect small clothing groups more than bots. Well established groups will continue to upload stolen clothes and use the profit-ted robux to create more groups to upload more clothes.
Botted clothing groups will be affected negatively (which is a good thing) but at the same time, small clothing designers too.
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Yee bcz if bots can buy premium they will find the way to copy paste
Its still a game, i donât see point why someone should pay to sell their game clothing, there are much more ways to prevent bottingâŚ
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