Are the higher ups at Roblox smoking Ro-Crack? I actually want some of that stuff so I can understand the thought process behind this.
I don’t trade but it’s blatantly clear how terrible this is. If the average developer despises the robux holding period that is imposed, it should be obvious extending it to trading isn’t a good idea.
I get it, user safety is important, but 70% of the time these “safety improvements” screw over the experience of the average user. Then again, the higher ups are out of touch corporate boomers so I can’t really be too shocked.
Hey, remember when we all blew up about Roblox forcing team create to be the default, and demanded justification, even just a basic explanation for why certain (especially unpopular) changes are getting pushed? And Remember Roblox taking a step forward after that on transparency with the roadmap?
This is not an explanation, this is a line of buzz that would satisfy a tabloid. Show some statistics, give us a reason to trust that you are making changes that make something important better. Show us that there is no other way to accomplish the desired result.
If there is no explanation and Roblox simply forcefeeds the community changes that not a single person wants or understands, you’re further sabotaging your community relations.
I’d like to add that my comment has the word “ass” in it, front and center.
This means that roblox or any form of moderation, aren’t even reading these comments
: D wonderful I love our voices hitting a literal wall
Whilst this attempt at alleviating the various risks of trading is applaudable, it still misses much of the real issues that are still prevalent with trading. On top of this, the update will drastically decrease the excitement and skill that was once generated and required through trading.
Majorly disruptive to smaller traders, which this update only results in exacerbating the lack of quantity of items or any meaningful methods of trading for them. Small traders rely on the speed of trades to be able to easily flip items multiple times a day to make marginal gains, and now even that is impossible. Imagine if you only have one item, you have to wait 2 days before completing a trade. If the item is really small (lower than 1k), you’d essentially have to wait 2 days to make maybe 10-100 robux which is ridiculous. Bearing in mind many people enter trading using their premium benefits and only 450 robux, this will mean that this new update will essentially bar off the majority of new traders who lack any substantial quantity of robux to make trading viable at all and taking out the fun that once existed as you are forced to stop trading as you have nothing to trade.
Trading in any form is extremely speculative, so the 2 day holding period will greatly increase the risk of any trade and consequently make the majority of traders much more careful and passive, lowering the trading volume significantly, whilst also making the valuation of limiteds much more unstable.
If you are really aiming to better the trading experience and to increase safety, you should be utilising much more of the details of users that you have on hand.
Traders with an extensive trading history with plenty of completed trades should have a shorter or no holding period at all
Account age and history, most scammers have recently made accounts with little to no game activity, very irregular RAP graphs, no robux spent on limiteds (they get all their limiteds traded to them to bait people), very few friends added. Players with plenty of past activity and long time spent on the platform should have a shorter or no holding period at all
Trades with similar RAP from both sides should have a shorter period of holding time and trades with big difference longer arguably. There should be some kind of system to identify if the trade seems realistic or not and then acting accordingly based on the audit of the trade.
On the topic of reliable users, people with 2FA enabled should be able to bypass the holding period as long as they are prompted with 2FA and complete it in order to authorise the trade. If both users involved in the trade authorise the trade using 2FA, there should be no holding period.
In order to protect the trading community, more steps should be taken to ensure that people who want to trade legitimately are able to without much inconvenience, whilst putting more direction into tackling the root causes and the clear red flags generated by those who are using the platform maliciously.
Comparing Steam market to Roblox market is funny.
On Steam gambling / selling / buying skins (From other sites than Steam) is normal and common, on roblox it is not.
On Steam if you get scammed you cant ask for rollback, on roblox you can.
Trading on Steam is FREE, On roblox you have to pay i think 5$ monthly.
If you want to be safer from scamming then dont fall for dumb scamming methods, Dont download rats , Sus extensions and Have a long and safe password.
Steam added 7 day tradelocks on skins bc they tried to slow down a gambling sites not for user safety lol.
They saw that their cease and desist didnt stop the gambling so they added a update that they thought will kill gambling but it only changed how gambling works.
It’s not really funny at all, considering that Roblox is basically trying to make the trading system more like the one Steam has.
And one of the main reasons Roblox added trading holds is to counter rule-breaking trading sites aswell, so there’s not really much that can be done if they see Steam as a role model over what limited trading should be.
They already spent the money making and publishing the update, so the only thing people can do now is wait and see if they add in an extra option to somehow limit or disable trading holds.
Unfortunately they don’t seem like they will revert this.
Trading as a whole is completely DEAD and barely anybody bothers anymore. People trade for items they like.
After 10 years on this platform its time to say bye. This is the worst Roblox has ever been.
Not only did they ruin the trading system, but limiteds now have literal 1:1 ugc copies and STAFF DONT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT??
UGC SAC as well, unfortunately couldn’t find images of these
AND THESE ARE NOT THE ONLY COPIES
Roblox also decided to ruin faces out of nowhere cause they felt like it; and they are trying to turn a legacy blocky game into an Uncanny Valley. This platform’s future is surely not for me & many other people. Rip Roblox
Copying trade hold system bc other platform has it is stupid.
Roblox trading was fast-paced and if you were lucky you could make 5-10 trades in a day using same items. It was working great for everyone, so why they are changing it. Also, if Roblox wants to copy elements from steam trading then why dont they copy:
Messages in trades offers
Infinite trade slots
Free trading
If you are talking about message from Inception it is fake.
unsure what this ‘roblox economy collapse’ is due to ugc limited replicas and moderation
somebody wants an item on the catalog that is way out of their price range. they are met with either 1.spending real money to convert to robux to get the item; or 2. trading up for it, time consuming
instead they come across the 100%+ discounted replica option for pennies, motivating them to buy small robux packages.
It looks like Roblox doesn’t care about limited items and trading at all. Hundreds of limited copies have been uploaded to the catalog in the last few weeks and it takes Roblox days or even weeks to delete them.
Okay, it looks like they’re taking more action now.
Most if not all UGC rip offs have been deleted & people that have tried to bypass the system have gotten their UGC uploader permissions removed or have been terminated. I am glad they are taking action. I wish they cared enough to fix up the trading system though
A couple of my value items have become Rap items But they might have anyway… And obviously a lot of demand has dropped because of the 2 day holding period… I’m so annoyed I really hope they revert it!
Coming back after 3-4 years this is disappointing. The trade holding periods need to be reduced by 24 hours at the minimum if we’re worried about security. This has made trading a really long process. Hopefully they can reduce the time in the future.