While I respect the thought here and with the update as a whole I do not believe the way Roblox are going about this to be very good. Today you have taken a handful of classic legacy faces offsale, presumably in favor of this update but this only limits expression. If this is done for all legacy faces it would mean newer users to the site are unable to access the legacy faces at all which does not feel like giving them the opportunity to express themselves properly to me, furthermore these new heads require users to use a certain head shape in order to wear a particular face which is further limiting expression.
For Instance what if I wanted to wear the “Freckles” legacy face which was just taken offsale, I could buy the matching “Sun Kissed Freckles” dynamic head however this head is a feminine shaped head and although most users of the face would likely be female, it is unfair to essentially roadblock people from wearing these faces how they want to, it is limiting them not allowing them to have more freedom.
Please reinstate all the legacy faces which were taken offsale today and allow these to be used by people who don’t wish to use dynamic heads. Allow people to pick which they want to use, don’t force this upon new users some of whom may find the new heads a bit uncanny.
There may be others I missed and if there are I would like to see those reinstated too if possible, though I doubt this will even be listened to anyway I would like to raise my point here.
Hi @SergeantBlocky! When I spoke to David on the avatar team as well as another product manager, they stated all existing bundles would be getting updated to include facial animations.
Is this still the case? Will bundles such as the Crimson Claw be updated to have proper heads & facial animations?
It would be unfortunate if users of various packages couldn’t express themselves because the meshes were never updated.
There is also a point to be made regarding privacy, while I understand that Roblox probably isn’t sending snapshots of my face to wherever, but without camera acces they couldn’t, that wasn’t even possible. But having my camera light turned on all the time is not gret for privacy.
I’m hoping this is optional. I do see this being useful for games that overwrite the player’s avatar and/or have NPCs that developers want to give facial animation too. But this definitely should not replace what already exist.
Classic faces should still be made open to UGC though.
Rest of the post that's no longer relevant as this appears to be optional:
I, and I’m sure at least 90% of the Roblox community, would prefer to keep their classic head in order to continue using faces. Some faces are even limited. I think a better idea would me to open faces up for UGC, so people don’t have to make masks that pretend to be faces.
Speaking of limited, I have a face worth 62,900 R$ ($220.15 USD w/ DevEx) at the minimum right now. Will I get paid that much when it becomes impossible to sell? Overall, I think this is a really really bad change that, yet again, not a soul asked for. This is the issue we have with Roblox. I would kindly ask that you stop making choices without the consent of the community. All new things should always be optional without exception.
I would like to remind Roblox of one of its original core principals. That being about allowing creativity without restriction (with obvious exceptions like TOS violations). Roblox was meant to be as open as possible. With all of these changes, we were promised that developers could make games of every style. We were promised that we could express ourselves freely with limitless avatar customization.
So why is it that we’re going backwards and becoming more restricted? What are you doing Roblox? I’m not even upset about the new heads, it’s that you’re forcing it on people. Everything should be optional and there is literally no reason why it needs to be forced. You can make it the default, that’s perfectly fine. But don’t remove options to force something, especially when that something isn’t want most people want. I would also once again suggest that you open up classic faces for UGC
What’s most disappointing is that Roblox said they’d be more transparent. There are posts essentially apologizing for the lack of communication. Even going as far as to publish a road map, albeit somewhat vague. Why are we going back yet again to this behavior? I thought we had learned from this. Is it really so difficult to communicate things beforehand? Why do you feel the need to force certain things? I can understand if it’s required by law or something along those lines, but this has absolutely no reason to be forced.
Today, a bunch of Classic Faces that were published onto the avatar marketplace by Roblox went off-sale, is this related to this change? If so - will be see these faces come back in the form of dynamic heads? Or are they gone forever.
By having the “camera enabled”, do you mean a setting from Roblox or the settings inside the device we use to access Roblox?
A feature like this should be entirely togglable no matter the users age.
Edit: This feature can be toggled in the settings on the Roblox app/website. It is off by default.
As always, we (the community) would love to hear back on the feedback we give. We don’t know if we are heard if there’s no response or action that we can see. I hope the concerns of the community are not just ‘heard’, but rather are listened to. There is a difference.
Roblox asking for I.D for Voice Chat, Email for verifications, Phone number for 2FA , Location on every device and Camera Enabling for in game face animations and not to use my data for other purposes moment
Cant wait for some more uncanny valley territory, rthro was bad enough but now its time to hide because this is just full out creepy.
There is many other ways to innovate roblox and adding creepy animated faces isnt the way to go.
I enjoy a new idea as much as the next person but Roblox has a tendency to complete replace a completely fine and loved feature in order to make way for these new ideas which I’m sure have not even been polled to see which one users would prefer. Innovation is great but I don’t think removing/replacing what already makes the site special is the direction to go.
It’s funny how you guys say “Powering Imagination” but at the same time take away the faces that people actually wear. I’m guessing all the faces will go off-sale like the recent ones?
I don’t understand why anyone would want this feature. Seems like it is just going to bog down performance. And hey, what’s up with removing several classic heads?
This is officially the downfall of Roblox. RUN!!!
No. You can’t force people’s faces. You say “be anything you want” but now its "oh hey we remove your good tai verdes grin face.
This happened to one of my workers and the co-founder of my studio.
You’ve been trying to remove R6 and remove your history. Let us be what we actually want. You can’t just force people to wear a head. You just chopped down a CHUNK of history.
I think dynamic heads are lacking the degree of customization that the original classic faces had. However being able to assign moods to faces to give them unique expressions is a great feature, and having faces feel alive with movement is also kind of nice but everything else about dynamic heads falls flat.
No head customization
A large part of what makes classic faces so customizable is being able to use any face on any head you want, if I wanted to use my chill face on the perfection head for example, I’d be able to do it but with the dynamic heads each unique face is stuck to a single head which severly undercuts the degree of customizability users have with dynamic heads, I want to be able to wear a dynamic epic face on a dynamic perfection head not have a dynamic epic face stuck on the default head.
Dynamic Heads aren’t the exact same as classic heads
A large majority of Roblox and UGC items are positioned around the classic heads and faces but dynamic heads, however due to the changes to the heads a lot of accessories feel out of place. For example the classic head has a positioning on the body like this
However the dynamic head is raised up slightly which completely changes the look and feel of the head compared to the original. Not only that the smile is raised higher then the look of the classic
If Roblox is going to completely cut support for the classic heads and faces in favor of dynamic then they have to insure that the transition is perfectly smooth and dynamic faces look basically the exact same as their classic counterparts. Otherwise Roblox is removing the timeless look and customization of the classic faces to push a new feature that doesn’t look nearly as good as the original.
