We Need an Underage (13) User Detection Bot

i do not think there are enough users under the age of 13 to warrant a need for this.

i believe roblox stores your age also (i think, maybe COPPA doesn’t permit that though?) so just simply querying whatever database that information is held on will do the trick

there’s no long term solution to this as it’s very easy to just well, lie about your age.

this is incorrect, it has gotten to the point where i had to create a megathread DM with DevEngagementTeam because of how many more accounts i am finding.

you didn’t understand, <13 users are creating alts with the birthday set to something 13+, however since you are able to be logged into different accounts on devforum and roblox.com, they are logged into their main on roblox.com which is <13 but their 13+ alt is on devforum. since they are logged into their main they copy and paste their web.roblox.com links, ez detection


looks like people are missing the point :man_facepalming:

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I agree with the assessment of the problem, however your solution is not going to work.
If there ever was to be a user detection bot, it would look at several hundreds of parameters and feed it to a neural network.

A single if statement is the worst detection bot you can have.

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You do realise under 13’s can’t log in to the DevForum anyways? I recently turned 13 but before I couldn’t sign up to the DevForum due to how Roblox wants to protect users.

If you want an alt protection system then don’t allow people to log in when an IP has recorded an under 13 user accessing Roblox from that IP. Or make a holding zone if you have that IP situation for Developer Relations to approve a user.

You can’t do this if your under 13, when I was under 13 it said you can only change your age when your over 13 due to Restricted Mode.

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This won’t work. People can share the same IP.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Luckily if this sort of thing was implemented, I have no siblings [that are in the same household as me] but it could affect others. A holding zone is probably the best strategy for now. If a holding zone isn’t a good idea then an account activity measuring thingy could help and Roblox could block accounts from joining the developer forum that are under 28 days old.

The point as I’ve stated is to hold all accounts who use web in a post until they’re reviewed. This is how it has been but rather it’s been manually report. There’s nothing else to it. Also no holding accounts for a length of time doesn’t do anything other than break COPA law. As of right now DET suspends any users under age forever seeing as they don’t know their real birth and they could lie again.

Just making a manual flag and hold process, nothing else to it. Just making the current system manual.

As incapaz said:

Please read the whole main topic before posting.

Edit:

See the manual approval system is where users such as my self send it into DET. Then DET reviews it, with my idea is instead of me sending it in DET Automatically gets notified, the account gets put on a hold and DET manually approves it. This way cutting out what I do.

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While yes, this is true, there are a few issues. With moderating these links.

If someone has made it onto the DevForum, their account is > 13, meaning they will still post www.

I, probably among others, have siblings that use roblox.com on my computer more than I do. Sometimes I just search for my game or profile without switching accounts, making it web.

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Please read before posting

I believe this is too niche of a scenario to warrant not adding this feature. All that should happen is that these links would be put on the review queue, similar to how Discord server invites work here. Moderators can then look into it further.

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Posting a web.roblox.com link is not conclusive evidence for the user being 13-.

Also that’s not how COPPA works, you are clearly uninformed. A search reveals:

https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/complying-coppa-frequently-asked-questions-0#H.%20General%20Audience%20and%20Teen%20SItes
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We really do, recently had an encounter where I found a boy on the portuguese forum, and he was obviously -13. By the way, he had his “mom” profile linked to his, when I sent him a message asking about it, and if he was -13, he ignored and flagged my message lol. I didn’t get much feedback since it’s I believe the moderation on international forums are different;

I only had it had web.roblox.com showing up for only accounts which were either currently -13 or that had they’re account below 13 on roblox sometime ago; It can be used as a “icing on the cake” I guess.

Yes, but the whole point of this system is to automatically forward the post to DevRel to examine it. This is pretty much so normal users don’t have to manually report for DevRel to manually check into it. (Both ways require DevRel to do manual research.)

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Why do you want the forum to crack down on underage users in the first place? Low quality posts? Because thats a whole other ball game, and I can’t think of any other reason that it would be in your interests.

People shouldn’t have to worry about a link whenever they paste one into their post, and whoever examines the user shouldn’t have to waste their time on it, assuming its a false positive. It doesn’t seem worth it to me; if the user is making low quality posts then they’ll get caught that way. If they aren’t, well, then one could argue that they deserve to be on the forum. Leave it to DET to determine if they’re underage.

Legal reasons (COPPA). COPPA limits what data can be collected on minors, and minors shouldn’t be allowed to have access to unfiltered content, which is the case here.

I would say 99.99% of 13+ users are informed about www.roblox vs web.roblox in their links, so they would know to change it before posting. That is why they should simply be put on an approval queue for the uninformed 0.01%.

That is the point of the feature request – so the developer engagement team is notified of it so they can determine it.

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Why does “Web” possibly signify that a user is underage?

You can make an <13 account and notice this for yourself.

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These numbers do not really promote this feature request. No point spending significant effort automating this when it only catches “0.01%” of the users in the wrong age groups.

You didn’t understand, many posts here are discouraging the feature request because of “false positives”, but I am saying because the uninformed minority is a minority that shouldn’t be a reason for this to be not added, and as far as I am aware this isn’t too difficult of a task when it is just adding to a list of phrases to watch.

And like you said web. in the link shouldn’t be the only determiner for if someone is underage, hence why, it should just require approval.

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