Thank you for mentioning the things I forgot to mention. Btw I love how people are just the opposite of us xD
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If you’re not going to verify your identity or use the functionality provided by doing so, then just don’t use it. Why do you have to be so loud about not using a feature? What’s stopping your bank or official government website from being hacked? If hackers want to hack, they’re gonna hack.
You must be missing out on half the convenience of the internet. Do you own any type of game console? Do you have a cellphone? I’d hate to break it to you but your information is already out there. It doesn’t have to be your doing it could be the doing of your legal guardian. Sure now that you may be of legal age and have control over your information doesn’t stop what could have already been leaked. All you can do at that point is prevent that data from being updated.
Though, still not sure why you have to be so loud about not using a feature. Or is it because you also don’t want others to use the feature?
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You are the one who does not want the others to use it if you already say it. He wouldn’t care if he found voice chat superfluous anyway, but at least I think it’s cool and want to use it but I don’t feel like giving any unnecessary information about me for no purpose! This thread does not have to be littered with any meaningless answers but with the real criticism.
It is not pointless to protect your identity, on the contrary, it makes sense! And where are we supposed to be wrong? Everything he and I have said is the truth, isn’t it? If we want to use the function, we still want to be a pseudonym! Why should our dream of spatial voice in Roblox be destroyed for some stupid pointless reason?
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You’re literally reiterating the fact that you find the point that you need to verify your identity stupid. It’s truly okay to find it stupid and to think it is stupid. The same way you can also be more quiet about finding it stupid. What’s stopping you from keeping this idea to yourself?
To you it’s stupid. However to the United States of America where Roblox is currently based, the law is most definitely not stupid. The identity verification is there so that Roblox remains in compliance. When comparing that compliance with your convenience, you’ll lose 100% of the time. You’re currently being selfish. Why does Roblox have to make themselves vulnerable to its own regulations to appease your convenience? That would be putting Roblox at risk, that risk could potentially affect millions of players on the platform.
Just because you don’t understand something, doesn’t mean the idea itself is stupid. Just that your lack of understanding is.
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There is a very clear purpose as to why roblox asks for verification, they’re not allowed to record under 13 year olds if they want to comply to COPPA, read Complying with COPPA: Frequently Asked Questions | Federal Trade Commission , at number 3.
EDIT: Going on from your other post, in Germany you do have the option of creating a national id from any age. German ID Card for Applicants under 16 years of age - Federal Foreign Office
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How can I trust the ID verification, You guys clearly said it is gonna be by an AI, Roblox has already a history of unreliable moderation bots, How do I know when I upload my ID it isnt just gonna say it’s fake due to an error and terminate my account?
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Look I think voice chat is an amazing feature but I do have some issues
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Nothings stopping anyone from abusing voice chat, and we all know reporting people rarely does anything
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Why the ID? Like I get for safety but what about the people who are of age but can’t get an ID for some reason
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You said it’s gonna be run by an AI…yeah I’m sorry but the other bots that run Moderation suck
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Yeah litterally I think the same, Im scared to upload my ID and just get terminated because the bot thought it was fake, And roblox being roblox wont care about my appeal
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If you guys would just read a few replies above your own you’d see the answer to your questions. If you don’t want to verify your ID then don’t. Just silently not use the feature. There’s no need for you guys to go becoming activists on this thread for not verifying your identity.
All of the points you guys are coming up with are mute. Obviously, Roblox is using a third party for identity verification. So you being disappointed in Roblox’s AI is a mute point. If you upload a false identity, then obviously your account will be terminated. That’s a crime.
If you’d like to talk about moderation of Spatial Voice or how it will be censored there’s a thread on that in #development-discussion this is not the place to discuss that.
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It’s not a mute. They asked for some form of feedback. Everyone is allowed to be worried about this.
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That’s fine, feedback is feedback. But hanging on to one point to draw the thread off topic is not the way to go about it. Making 21 posts telling people they shouldn’t use the feature xyz is not an opinion, that’s an agenda.
“I don’t like this feature because I have to verify my ID.” Good on you, move on. Why continue dragging the topic in a direction it wasn’t meant to go in. We have categories for that.
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The thing is that it’s still an AI. Not only that but roblox runs parts of it. I would personally like for roblox to hire more people just to verify these types of things.
Edit: I should mention I have no issue giving a ID
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And Facebook runs their own API. And you can make your own integrations in which you can run your own part of it. This is how an API works. How else do you expect two different companies to communicate with each other securely? There’s also a #development-discussion category in which we could talk about how you’d personally like for Roblox to hire more people to verify these things.
Again this thread is not the place for a full discussion about that.
Ok so the AI isnt roblox’s wich is good since it isn’t gonna be some crap AI but still my only concern is that eventually this AI will have a false positive because they arent perfect, Telling me to just not verify isnt a valid point because I do wanna get voice chat but not risk getting punished by roblox if a false positiive happens. All I’m saying is roblox should not go to severe on the punishments they give out to users for faking ID’s because there might be false positives.
Would love to look through this post and see some feedback regarding the actual voice chat. Still waiting for ID verification to roll out so that I can verify my ID and utilize it. Though I’m not actually sure if it works in studio since I read that you would need to be in the beta to hear. For me it just show’s I’m not eligible in Studio.
Thanks for concerning about the actual voice chat. Seems to me you think it’s professional for a third party partner to offer Identity Verification and throw false positives at Roblox without having some kind of check in place to prevent this. That would be a very bad service. Do you not think maybe after these checks the third party service is contacting Roblox letting them know hey we noticed some “blatant” fraud?
For sure, I can’t say there won’t be these issues. Like every other human being in the world that uses their services this is just some trust I’ll have to place in them like any other service I use.
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You do have a point, Maybe if the AI says the ID is fake it will be reviewed by a human and then confirmed to be negative by him. All I was saying is I was concerned because not everything is perfect, and considering how roblox works with these things well it of course made me worried.
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Because My bank has an established history of no data breaches and that’s why I picked them. As for a government website, If someone hacked a government website they would have the FBI on them faster than you can say “mama mia”.
It’s not. I’m pre-internet and my parents have 0 ideas how to use the internet other than google without my help. They can’t even use amazon correctly without getting me to remote in to help them.
Google pixel 4 modified OS, No info gets sent to google other than what I allow.
My information is secure, The United States has failed its citizens if the population is openly okay with releasing personal info through the internet. I’m making a point about this because the verification system is stupid to those over 18. Discord does not require documents nor does guilded, why should Roblox? This is an attempt to deprive us of privacy and get us to give over more information.
You’re free to mention laws all you want, but at the end of the day, unless you’re a lawyer then you shouldn’t be giving legal opinions to anyone. It’s openly obvious you don’t need documents for voice chat proven by discord and guilded (said above) when Roblox literally owns guilded and they still don’t require documents.
edit: im dead lmfao … if the one who sent me this is reading, you got exactly ZERO points of information correct. I applaud you for proving my point.
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Thanks for cherry picking my reply, and further dragging this thread off topic. Do you feel better about yourself now?
Sorry if you thought I was a lawyer, or offered any type of legal advice. I clearly did not mention any laws. Simply that Roblox is under regulation. I’m glad that you’re able to keep your information private while also being able to misunderstand a single post.
I shall take your opinion into consideration since you were so gracious to provide it to me.
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Yeah… um, didn’t someone in the thread or the announcement say that if an ID is denied, a human would check it out, I really don’t think we have to worry about the verification instead, though, okay, fine, data breaches can happen, but they’re pretty rare, aren’t they?
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I have no doubt in my mind they are using separate servers for spatial voice games and are trying to limit the huge influx of it all. Only what I would imagine though.
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