Wait-times could be dependent on a player’s monthly/weekly income.
I am shocked by this, like honestly us developers are already waiting 3 days to get our funds and now 3-7 days? It’s ridiculous! Some of us have to pay rent and now we have to wait up to 7 days to actually recieve our funds, ontop of that it takes us 2 weeks+ to get our devexs approved this is just a horrible change and by the looks of it everyone is upset by this.
This is a great update and improves the safety and security of everyone on the platform!!!
But for all the small developers? There games could die instantly after a few weeks.
Mmm. I’m soo glad somebody supports this. Have you thought* of small devs?
This honestly feels more like a downgrade than an upgrade, especially towards the community who are doing everything correctly and following the ToS. There are many other ways to go about and increase/update security that have been mentioned or suggested plenty of times. This one just feels like a slap on the wrist for us.
To be honest this is a bad update, I know its to make ‘more secure’ the platform for the people that get stolen his robux for cookieloggers or MGUIs but for me and small developers or even big developers waiting 3 days is a hell, I know why this made but it will hurt alot small developers like me or even big developers…
When I saw this I though it was gonna be a good update tbh.
How exactly “risk of fraud and abuse” is defined is what really counts, since it could be in such a way that most developers are unaffected.
That and variable waiting time is not a good thing considering the fradulent activity that could cause and that some people will need their income on a regular schedule.
This is not something that would increase safety and security in and of itself. It would surely give more time for users to communicate to staff about rip-offs and scams, but it would ultimately rely on how well the actual staff respond to it all.
This “adjustment” wouldn’t be needed if Roblox could merely up their ability to respond and react to fraud. It also has many more downsides that upsides.
Downsides:
- the community here as a collective seem to dislike it; this would create distrust between Roblox and their users and would ultimately create bad blood
- it effectively shuts down small developers and game designers who rely on quick robux to pay their free-lancers and employees
- people who rely on Roblox as their primary/only source of income would essentially forced out of their job as a developer
- methods for which users launder robux would simply change, which essentially makes this adjustment useless at best (harmful to the community at… reality)
Upsides:
- more time for fraud detection, if there was even a good way to detect them in the first place (???)
I don’t see how this will really change anything. I personally think the best way to crackdown on scams is to better moderate the ads. I mean almost every day I see adopt me pet ads, 1 billion robux ads, free catalog items, the list goes on. My point is how is delaying the time developers receive earnings really going to help out scam and fraud prevention? 3 days is already a decent amount time.
I understand that this is a update for the security reasons but for me, there are some points which I’d like to also mention, as some of other commenters here mentioned that this’ll affect smaller groups massively. And I, one of those small groups which am doing decent job at it & waiting possibly a whole week for funds, oh boy, it’s going to be tough… Now, I mainly use the funds which my group get’s for to advertise the group for more public view, but waiting an entire week for funds to come and then the meantime my group just dies, I don’t think I can like that, haha.
Well, in conclusion, I understand it’s for the security reasons, for the most part, security does need some help so this’ll do something. No hate or nothing on whatever I’ve said or mentioned, just wanted to say what I had to say. Take care!
I understand this is for security reasons but 3-7 days is a long time to way. 3 days is already bad enough as @Aven_ue said but, this can really get tempting on my developers to leave my project due to this, i’ve recently lost my GFX Designer on how bad 3 days, moving along with my point how am I supposed to put money towards ads when I have to wait a week for my revenue to come in? Additionally, this can be very hard for small developers on this platform to gain their revenue.
I completely understand the logic here, however, I think adding a pending period to limiteds only solves one problem while creating another. Pending periods on groups (and, if implemented, Limiteds) would be less necessary if Roblox would implement the long requested new security options of locking purchases, and conversely, Limited sales on the catalog behind the account pin, which in my opinion is wholly underutilized.
I’d just like to start this by saying, my disappointment is immeasurable. The very idea that extending the wait for funds to go through would work to stop laundering, displays (to me) complete and utter incompetence of those making this decision. Extending the waiting period would quickly result in a shift in the methods in which people launder currency on this platform. There is no plausible way in which they don’t find a way around this in a short period of time. Once that happens, this change will be nothing but a substantial annoyance and inconvenience on all the wrong people. This is like putting a band-aid on a dismembered leg.
Now, this announcement is astonishingly vague, even if you were to include the small hints of elaboration within the thread. I would love to make some points off of what you’ve said but I literally can’t. Thus my response is reduced to just questions to clarify what you even meant in the first place.
What is it that makes a transaction risky?
What dictates if a transaction is suspicious?
Do users get moderated if they are to take part in these “risky and/or suspicious” transactions?
If so, to what extent is the moderation?
Do you really think this is going to shut down suspicious activity on the platform?
I have no doubts in my mind, that this change will result in collateral damages within the community, and because of this I am appalled.
Thanks.
This is an awful idea. It wont effect larger groups and developers that bad as they have a large amount of funds coming in, but for lower end group on the smaller side it will hurt them a lot. They need those funds coming in to get their games running and groups sustained. Having them wait a week for funds to come in will really crush smaller developers. I personally feel as though this is a really bad move by ROBLOX.
I would like to assume that this practice is specifically to key in on groups making questionable and potentially fraudulent transactions? I noticed in the second paragraph you explicitly say “Depending on risk of fraud or abuse” and “range from three to seven days”. Does this imply that the holding period will vary depending on the transaction / moderation history of the individual(s) selling these assets?
I seriously doubt well known titles such as Adopt Me and Welcome To Bloxburg should be put into the same holding period category as games that let’s say… Sell group ranks for Robux?
I’d would also like to assume that based on your average holding period, it’ll essentially determine your “karma” when it comes to monetization and transactions. With 5-7 days being you are flagged as a higher risk for fraud and 3-4 being the normal. Maybe that is just my interpretation of this.
Main problem is pretty much stolen items being sold and transferred through groups to sell for real world money, but honestly there is so many ways this could be prevented such as a pin, a different type of authenization only the real owner is given or maybe a pending state for items being purchased or sold from the catalog via a order system. This is being really prolonged by trying to increase pending sales which isn’t necessary at all.
So we have to wait longer to get paid and you can only devex once a month, a terrible combination for smaller developers.
Alright it’s my time to complain lol
This is kind of obscure what do you mean by a fraud and risk? You are still getting your robux botting items can happen still. You gotta find a better way then just keeping the robux from 3-7 days. As this may hurt a lot of developers and I just think it is too long to wait.
Roblox please stop making transactions in Roblox worse when they are already an absolute mess. You’re literally taking 30% tax on every single transaction which is extremely dumb, you’re forcing developers to buy Premium to use DevEx (like what, you’re expecting us to pay to get paid, where is the logic??) and there is no transparency whatsoever if the DevEX request is going to go through or if you’re even eligible. You also can’t pay people who work for you the right amount they deserve, that is if you don’t have a group with funds which is the case with most people. You can’t tranfer Robux that have already been taxed to a group of yours without getting that Robux taxed AGAIN, and now you’re making people wait up to 7 days to recieve their Robux. Fix your platform Roblox.