I don’t think the aim of the category is bad, I think larger developers also deserve wins and the discovery system shouldn’t exclusively value smaller games, but I think it’s basically just a duplicate of Most Popular.
It would make more sense if you merged both of these categories into one Most Popular category and just created 2 different conditions (real-time CCU, and daily active players) which it uses to “rank” games in popularity, and then display them on the Most Popular chart accordingly. To me this would make more sense, it would keep the Most Popular category consistent with what’s actually popular today and right now, and it wouldn’t clutter the discovery page with more than 1 category for essentially the same kind of thing.
I appreciate the addition of new categories, but they all rank very similar and often the same experiences. You can literally play tic tac toe on the chart page. Look how simple it is:
I’m failing to see how they are any different in any meaningful way. Both sorts are just displaying games that are already popular and don’t need even more visibility. This sort does nothing to actually improve game discovery and only aids well-established games.
how about instead of duplicate posts, we have an “indie spotlight” where its just a list of curated smaller games (let’s say between 500 and 2000 players)?
This update brings back the sort we had in the old Roblox days and I’m thankful for that. Now I just wish you would make it so it displays even more games without it being capped at 99 results.
The issue with this update is how similar they are. Both sorts will bring up the most popular games on the platform in every circumstance. This isn’t discovery, this is promotion.
I think this update is good as it is while the others offer similar functionality with additional filters. Do you view this update more as cluttering up the charts view? If so I do agree to a certain degree since we now have quite a few of these views / discoveries with similar queries. Maybe they will eventually come up with a better system but I think it’s fine as is, especially considering Roblox has kids and I doubt they want to create custom discovery queries from a drop-down instead if the staff reworked the charts page into something like that. I do want that as an additional feature tho.
Yes, these big front page games don’t need this much promotion. I know I sound anti-capitalist right now, but these games have already proven themselfs and don’t need help. They pull in millions of dollars every year. They won’t collapse if they aren’t seen on the front page 3 times in a row. And if they do, they need to market their game correctly.
What we do need is a rework of the charts game that shows a diverse set of games and sorts. I’m not saying that Roblox should purposely promote small games with no playerbase, but they should not only promote the big ones.
In the context of this conversation, I believe this would not apply to something as simple as ‘mild snark’. Your comment is somewhat inflammatory itself, accusing the ROBLOX community for being immature and misbehaving.
Singling out a user or group for ridicule or abuse, either publicly or privately
Furthermore, this is no longer constructive dialogue and I suggest we both cease communication.
I hear that people will have an opinion no matter what Roblox does, but when the company makes a post saying they want niche content to thrive on the platform, and then do this, shouldn’t we question that?
I don’t just have a opinion. I have an educated opinion based on the company’s word. The platform is working against its goals and is not hearing feedback.
Actionable feedback: systemically hear the community on discovery, work on the products already announced on the roadmap, and add CCU filter via Filter & Tags update. This system has merit, but in face of company goals, or the guise of them, of matching niche content to an audience… this shouldn’t be the focus.
The rancor is from years of feature request, lack of response from that team at Roblox, and 2 updates back to back reinforcing popularity. There’s merit in annoyance. I assume good intent and remain respectful despite that though.
I feel as though the majority aren’t being disrespectful and the minority of those who are stand out.
I find exactly what you’re describing on the Home page through the “Recommended for you” view and it has actually been great. Would be good to have this as the first result on the charts view though. It shows these smaller games and other games that actually peak my interest. I totally agree with you that the charts page needs to be reworked to do something like this with added filters. I still to this day wish we had the old Roblox games page. It was so simple, the “Genres” list was great and it all worked really well. It all went downhill in 2014.
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