I do like the idea of reduced marketplace fees. Maybe if they were halved or something for premium users?
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Yes, that would almost be perfect, itâd compensate a little for the premium user vip, instead of a gamepass vip.
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this is⌠not the best idea imo, it will just give people more reasons to feed the alread oversaturated market of simulator gamesâŚ
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An interesting move, but I canât say its a worth-while opportunity for most developers, that is, aside from earning a few extra Robux. Though hereâs the thingâŚ
Although its pretty neat that you get Robux because someone played your game, this doesnât exactly make me want to utilize the features which get players to get premium over have my own subscription system or simply having game-passes / dev products.
As a developer engaging in a premium exclusive business model is pretty much the stupidest thing you could be doing, given that you have 0 guarantee that by promoting premium youâll be getting your efforts worth when the player will most likely be playing other games and not just your game. Which would then take away from the money you worked hard to get.
However, looking more to it, even a premium inclusive model is still not a good idea because of the same reason that we simply do not have any control or even knowledge of how the profits from the player buying premium is going to be like.
So hold on, youâre telling me that because I made a paid access game so that i ensure that I get some money for giving the player something to enjoy while at the same time they arenât getting micro-transactions shoved down their throats as they do for âF2Pâ games, I donât deserve to be awarded for players that engage in my game? I mean come on think about it, instead of telling the player âHey you can play and enjoy this game forever for just x Robuxâ (and just so we donât forget, this amount of Robux is guaranteed to go to the developer) you want us to say âHey you can enjoy these features if you buy premium for one monthâ (which the developer has no guarantee theyâd be getting their effortâs worth)
donât get me wrong
I definitely see some good intentions behind this, where as Roblox wants to help developers earn more money from the games they create, and for that I thank everyone at Roblox for their hard work.
I believe this can be turned into a really great opportunity for developers, big and small, it just has to REALLY be thought over a bit more where as its:
- less vague in terms of how our efforts of promoting premium is getting us Robux.
- focused on all games big and small, instead of monopolizing the already gigantic games on the front page
- more transparency from Roblox as to how their systems really work instead of âItâs a complicated processâ or âBy doing this you - could - potentially get thatâ
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I wonât really say much since everyone already said it,
There is literally no point of giving premium membership exclusive stuff in-game, Itâs FAR MORE efficient to just make your own subscription module ( which I have done and many others did ) rather than promoting premium.
From what I could tell is that theyâre calculating it relatively which is pretty funny
The revenue I got from the subscription based developer products were over 60% of all the revenue giving me a stable income for every day,week or even a month.
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Can non premium members cash out?
I was actually getting ready to release a simulator in a few days so this is perfect timing. I am excited to see how this works out.
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No, only premium members can use DevEx.
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Not devex, I mean can non premium users use this new feature to earn robux.
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Not totally sure but I think so.
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I wholeheartedly agree with this. I donât like how vague this whole system is. Why canât we know approximately how much we will be given for somebody paying for Premium in our game, and playing for x amount of time?
I feel as though more transparency is needed here. Why should I make a premium paywall and not be guarenteed anything from it, when I could just restrict that part of the game with a gamepass instead? That way, Iâm guarenteed x amount. I understand that this system uses a pool of robux from all premium members in all games. But currently, we have no clue how much our games are earning from this, or how beneficial it would be for us to add premium exclusive features.
But would it be hard to give us more transparency with estimates on how this will benefit developers? You have been logging data for a bit of time, and thus you should be able to give estimates on how much R$ we receive for X premium members playing Y hours. Is it even worth it for us to make certain aspects of our game premium exclusive features?
Hereâs a quote from the DevHub article: When the playtime score increases, your Robux earned will most likely increase as well, but note that the relationship is not linear â for instance, a 5 point increase in playtime score does not guarantee a payout increase of 5 Robux.
What does most likely mean? We could get the same amount of in-game premium sales, and the same amount of premium hours played two months in a row, but earn less the second month? Or for that matter, we could get more premium sales and more premium hours, and still earn the same amount, or even less income from this feature?
Even so, the relationship between in-game premium sales, in-game premium hours, and Robux earned isnât linear, and we currently are clueless on how income is determined. The information given is very vague.
I agree with this. At least with your own subscription model, you know how much you are getting out of this, and itâll be a linear income and not determined behind the scenes with voodoo magic. Youâre not guarenteed anything with a premium based feature-exclusivity model.
Ripull has a point, whatâs the incentive here? What if they buy premium in your game, then never play it again? You just earned roblox a $4.99 purchase and got nothing in return at all for your effort. A better model for this system would be X robux per sale. Why should you potentially get nothing for encouraging more premium sales, and then be expected to paywall portions of your game to premium only members? With no guaranteed earnings from them.
Again, they are right. We are not getting anything guaranteed for pushing premium on our players, and likely wonât get anything significant in comparison to DevProduct subscriptions, GamePass sales, etc. While roblox gets $4.99 for you getting a player to purchase premium.
Again, another great point. Nobody knows how much we get for successfully getting a player to purchase premium. Perhaps nothing! Thatâs no good.
I like the idea, but not the execution. I think this needs to be addressed before a lot of us are going to be willing to put premium paywalls up in our game. Why should I make premium-only features instead of gamepass only features, or devproduct subscription features, which Iâm guarenteed to make X amount on whereas with this new premium payout feature, I might not make anything extra at all.
Iâll conclude with the only thing I do like about this feature: You can make extra robux for doing nothing, not ever prompting them to buy premium, and not ever adding premium only features to your game. That much is nice.
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Very thanks to roblox⌠This is the one that i wanted in roblox⌠IM VERY THANKS TO roblox⌠Btw how much robux is estimated for 10 premium players join my game?
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How exactly does it work for groups?
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Interesting to know what Roblox means by âotherâ games. Will your game be compared to games with similar daily visits, same genre etc? 
We will only know the power of premium payouts in the following months, where we can actually see how much premium payout will contribute to a developâs total revenue. I am assuming it will be in the range of 5-10%, but who knows.
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Will the amount earned from PP be part of daily revenue? So say if my game makes 1000 robux revenue, and 500 PP, the daily revenue will show as 1500 in the original developer stats page?
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I would presume this would go under âPending Salesâ when the game is under a group.
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I get why some people see this Roblox trying to sell premium, but how else were they going to do it? They canât just give free money, and I think this is a nice compromise.
Also, how about we wait and see before we get too dystopian. Roblox is clearly pushing safeguards to stop unbalancing, double p2p or p2w.
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Ok, so lemme make my game free, but then require players to spend real money on perks within my game, making it pay to win. Charging 25 robux for entry is only 8 cents⌠or I can make it âfreeâ to enter, but then force them to spend $5 to play the game once inâŚ
Stop making pathetic excuses. 99% of the pay to play games offer no pay to win mechanics, and almost all offer the entire game with the 1 purchase. Plus these games are usually really well made, and the ones on the front page clearly show that.
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Robloxâs excuses arenât pathetic⌠They arenât even excuses, theyâre sound reasons⌠Roblox fundamentally wants all games to be free to play, and so is incentivising that.
Specifically, I bet theyâre targeting games like Bloxburg. Bloxburg doesnât make anywhere close to most of its money from the tiny R$20 or whatever it is enterance fee, its made in gamepass and dev products. Bloxburg is a pretty well made experience, and Roblox thinks they (Roblox) would be better off it it was free to play. They donât just want to remove paid games as its a useful feature to have, so this is Robloxâs solution to that.
For what its worth, I think the reason Bloxburg has the entry fee is that Coeptus feels it keeps out lots of little kids who lower the role playing value, or trolls. Idk how valid that is given Adopt Me is doing just fine
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If they want all games to be free to play, then remove the paid access feature⌠isnât that hard⌠canât be for free to play games, but then still allow them and be against them⌠itâs stupid.
So there solution is to hopefully weed out pay to play games? If itâs a useful feature, then it should be given the same perks as every other game.
If you want to have this feature, take off paid access, if you would rather keep paid access, then donât. Iâm not sure why youâre advocating Roblox just removing paid access altogether??
Paid access is a useful feature for games in beta - it prevents games from gaining unwanted virality until theyâre ready. I bet thats why Roblox keeps it
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