I disagree, if this is implemented then there should also be an official way to delete groups entirely, otherwise there is no way to get rid of a group and also ensure that no one will be able to mine any data from it (from i.e. old wall posts, audit log, purchase/pay-out log, etc).
This is exactly why theyâre not doing it for you :P If they do it for one person, other people will want to be given the same privilege.
Iâm not sure if this is the best solution. An abandoned group might have places the owner thought were secured because the group was locked, but now theyâll become free for the taking. A group might have places like these because the owner moved groups, wanted to move the games to their profile, or cancelled the project but doesnât want anyone else to use their existing work. Places aside, when youâre taking an abandoned group, youâre starting off with what someone else built up which I donât think is a good thing.
IMO, when there are no members, the group should be locked and only able to be reclaimed by the owner. However, its name goes back into public domain and the group is assigned a temporary name until the owner comes back and claims it, if ever. If someone creates a group called âROBLOXâ and abandons it with 0 members, Iâm now able to create my own group called âROBLOXâ, but itâs a completely different group (new group ID) thatâs not related to the dead group.
But they have done it before? Iâm confused on what youâre trying to say.
They might have done it in the past (I donât know, do you?), but probably before they actually thought about the implications and made any guidelines about it.
No clue. But if they have and are refusing you now, theyâre doing it to prevent you from happening again. Letâs assume they did it for one group, and now 100 others including you want to take a dead group as well. Imagine they give a dead group to you too â more people hear about it and now 1000 more want ROBLOX to give them a dead group. Whenever you give special privileges to one person, others want those privileges as well. The smart thing to do would be to shoo you off so only 100 people want dead groups instead of 1099.
The first group I can think of that got their name changed was NBC Shirt Creators. They got it changed to a copied war group name.
I wonder if they were the ones who ruined it because of the whole event they caused. 
Changing names and claiming a dead group are two completely different things. Also, yes â NBC Shirt Creators probably ruined the chances of future group name changes because it showed exactly what people would use it for.
I asked for both of them.
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They only change group names if the name, or group itself, is breaking rules. If the offense is minor enough theyâll email the owner asking what they want the new name to be. If the offense is deliberate theyâll change it to [ Content Deleted gID ] (they used to this with users too).
An example would be:
When the Primary Group feature was introduced, members of First Encounter Assault Recon (FEAR) who had the group as their primary would have âFirst Encounter AssâŚâ displayed as their primary group. The name was changed to âThe First Encounter Assault Reconâ instead. At least, thatâs according to my memory.
In the case of NBC Shirt Creators, we saw exactly why groups canât change names. The scoundrel behind the group had it changed to a town-and-country style name (examples of this genre include Nightgaladeldâs USA and the City of Rockport) to spite an existing group with the same name.
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Yep. On top of that, all of the members of the group that had signed up for one group were all of a sudden in something they didnât sign up for. That was also a pretty big issue.
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For the upcoming overhaul itâd be great if we could log why moderation action was taken on posts/users/etc.
Why did I delete a post? Because it was a double-post. Canât tell that from the audit log and it may look like I deleted a reasonable post.
Why did I exile a user? Because they were spamming the wall. Nobody can tell why I exiled them in the audit log though, so they might think I unfairly exiled them.
Also, when exiling a user it gives you the option to delete their posts. If you choose to do this, their posts are deleted, but these are not added to the audit log. This is problematic for the same reason above. I can say I exiled them for spam, but whereâs the proof since the audit log has no trace of their messages? It should show those posts being deleted.
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I like these ideas and I have something to add to them:
When removing posts itâd be nice if we can select a group of posts to delete at once. That way we donât have to go on one by one giving a reason for eachâŚ
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The reason locked groups stay locked is because of the funds in some of them. If all of these were suddenly unlocked, someone with a list of which groups have funds in them could just go through all of them and make hundreds of thousands of robux.
All the more reason to never allow abandoned groups to be claimed and just give out their names instead, assigning a placeholder name to the abandoned group in its place which the owner can reset if they ever come back to claim the group.
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Someone suggested to me that groups have more specific ranking controls. Basically, allowing a particular rank, ranking abilities over specific ranks. That way, if you want a high rank in the group to be able to control some ranks below them but not others you can do that. Right now, you either can or cannot control all ranks below you.
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A hacky way around this would be to set the ranks you donât want affecting eachother to the same Rank Number (1-255).
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Would be super easy with the ability to assign multiple roles. Thereâd be a primary role that the user would show up as, but all other roles would have their permissions applied on top of that (like Discord permissions). For instance, instead of ROBLOX having to design something niche like a âManageRankListâ permission constraint specifically for this, we could just create roles that look like this:
- ModifyRanks0To50Permission
- ModifyRank55Permission
- ModifyRank60Permission
and assign those to the HR role which is assigned to every user in the group whose rank is >= 150
We need this still. This would change groups forever.
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Why on Earth hasnât this even been slightly added yet. It was posted in 2014 and absolutely needs to be implemented. Things like this is what will keep people playing the site. I donât mean to have this tone of âvoiceâ however there is no reason why this shouldnât be added.
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This would be important for many groups including Hidden Developers as I feel so limited currently. It would be a step in the right direction.
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